From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Nov 4 06:37:35 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iA4EbSUL023272 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id JAA28875 for public-list; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:22:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav31.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.61]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28871 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:22:01 -0800 Received: from 63.159.200.180 by BAY4-DAV31.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:21:52 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.200.180] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Why ETI may exist but we can't find them yet Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:21:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C4C24F.B8513070" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2004 14:22:01.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[A653AEF0:01C4C279] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C4C24F.B8513070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000106.html To quote the first paragraph: When it comes to speculating about the nature of advanced = extraterrestrial civilizations and possible answers to Fermi's = Paradox, almost = everyone assumes the basic structure and intent of such a civilization = should exists somewhere on the Kardaschev Level, as I discussed in Part = 1. I think the lack of any = evidence to their existence using this model, could be the result of = human scientific chauvinism. For example, as I and John = Smart has = argued there is a distinct = possibility that advanced civilization's could decide that moving out = into space in the traditional expansive = convert-the-universe-into-computronium agenda is not be the best way to = go. Instead they may convert their local resources into = ultra-miniaturized "femto-tech", where all of further advancement occurs = at an increasingly miniaturized "internality" and/or they actually reach = a plateau of complexity/novelty. In this scenario, such singularity = intelligence never leaves their home planet. Instead 99.999% of their = existence, exploration and creation happens in inner space, not outer = space. In such a scenario it's possible that such a civilization would = remain undetectable in their own solar system, not to mention hundreds = or thousands of light years away. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C4C24F.B8513070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
To quote the first paragraph:

When it comes to speculating about the nature of advanced = extraterrestrial=20 civilizations and possible answers to Fermi's = Paradox,=20 almost everyone assumes the basic structure and intent of such a = civilization=20 should exists somewhere on the Kardaschev Level, as I discussed in Part 1. I = think the lack=20 of any evidence to their existence using this model, could be the result = of=20 human scientific chauvinism. For example, as I and John = Smart has argued = there is a=20 distinct possibility that advanced civilization's could decide that = moving out=20 into space in the traditional expansive = convert-the-universe-into-computronium=20 agenda is not be the best way to go. Instead they may convert their = local=20 resources into ultra-miniaturized "femto-tech", where all of further = advancement=20 occurs at an increasingly miniaturized "internality" and/or they = actually reach=20 a plateau of complexity/novelty. In this scenario, such singularity = intelligence=20 never leaves their home planet. Instead 99.999% of their existence, = exploration=20 and creation happens in inner space, not outer space. In such a scenario = it's=20 possible that such a civilization would remain undetectable in their own = solar=20 system, not to mention hundreds or thousands of light years away.

 

------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C4C24F.B8513070-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Nov 9 05:23:15 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iA9DNDUL021943 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 05:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id IAA13076 for public-list; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:06:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav1.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.105]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13072 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 05:06:03 -0800 Received: from 4.157.56.191 by BAY4-DAV1.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:05:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.157.56.191] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Human evolution and the stars Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:05:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4C632.F123B490" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:05:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2004 13:06:03.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDC7B480:01C4C65C] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4C632.F123B490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Exploded Star Possibly Affected Human Evolution" "A star that exploded about nearly three million years ago left traces = of debris on Earth and might have affected the course of human evolution, a = new study suggests. When particles from the explosion bombarded Earth's atmosphere over a = long stretch of time, climate change could have forced early humans to fan = out in search of food, the reasoning goes. The evidence is in the form of extra doses of iron-60, a radioactive = isotope of iron that normally occurs on Earth in lesser quantities. Researchers found the supernova debris in layers of soil dated to 2.8 million years = ago, building a case they opened five years ago with less concrete data." Full text: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=3Dstory&u=3D/space/20041108/sc_spac= e/explodedstarpossiblyaffectedhumanevolution&e=3D4 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4C632.F123B490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
"Exploded Star Possibly Affected Human = Evolution"

"A=20 star that exploded about nearly three million years ago left traces = of
debris=20 on Earth and might have affected the course of human evolution, a = new
study=20 suggests.

When particles from the explosion bombarded Earth's = atmosphere=20 over a long
stretch of time, climate change could have forced early = humans to=20 fan out in
search of food, the reasoning goes.

The evidence is = in the=20 form of extra doses of iron-60, a radioactive isotope
of iron that = normally=20 occurs on Earth in lesser quantities. Researchers
found the supernova = debris=20 in layers of soil dated to 2.8 million years ago,
building a case = they opened=20 five years ago with less concrete data."

Full text:

http:= //story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=3Dstory&u=3D/space/20041108/sc_space= /explodedstarpossiblyaffectedhumanevolution&e=3D4

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4C632.F123B490-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Nov 10 11:34:58 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAAJYuUL029867 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id OAA03246 for public-list; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:22:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav9.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.113]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03242 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:22:05 -0800 Received: from 63.159.193.2 by BAY4-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:21:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.193.2] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: The Cosmos 1 Solar Sail mission set for launch on March 1, 2005 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:21:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C4C730.9E137750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:21:49 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2004 19:22:05.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[901D2630:01C4C75A] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C4C730.9E137750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yesterday, on what would have been Carl Sagan's 70th birthday, they = started the countdown for the launch date of the Cosmos 1 solar sail mission. You can read = about this in the next=20 two items: http://www.planetary.org/news/2004/ss_launch_set_1109.html * Planetary Society's Cosmos 1 Solar Sail Ready for Flight http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/cosmos-1_update_041109.html A clicking countdown clock has started, leading to a liftoff of the = orbital mission of Cosmos 1 -- billed as the world's first solar sail = spacecraft. For some background on the mission from 2003: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=3D10214315&BRD=3D1395&PAG=3D461= &dept_id=3D216620&rfi=3D6 Larry ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C4C730.9E137750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Yesterday, on what would have been Carl Sagan's 70th birthday, they = started=20 the countdown
for the launch date of the Cosmos 1 solar sail mission.  You = can read=20 about this in the next
two items:
 
 
 
* Planetary Society's Cosmos 1 Solar Sail Ready for = Flight
 
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/cosmos-1_update_041109.html
=
A=20 clicking countdown clock has started, leading to a liftoff of the = orbital=20 mission of Cosmos 1 -- billed as the world's first solar sail=20 spacecraft.

For some background on the mission from 2003:
 
http://www.zwire.com/s= ite/news.cfm?newsid=3D10214315&BRD=3D1395&PAG=3D461&dept_id=3D= 216620&rfi=3D6
 
 
Larry
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C4C730.9E137750-- From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov 15 08:56:32 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAFGuUUL011338 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id LAA03369 for public-list; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:43:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav21.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.125]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03365; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:43:00 -0800 Received: from 63.159.120.248 by BAY4-DAV21.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:42:00 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.120.248] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Cc: "BioAstro" Subject: SETI public: Jansky lecturer stresses importance of serendipity Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:41:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C4CB08.1CDDC790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2004 16:43:00.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B5D88D0:01C4CB32] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C4CB08.1CDDC790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saturday, November 13, 2004 Jansky lecturer stresses importance of serendipity Tom Treweek El Defensor Chieftain Reporter TTREWEEK Dr. Ronald Ekers stressed the importance of serendipity in = cosmological discovery during his recent presentation, the first in the = Karl G. Jansky Lecture series. Ekers' appearance at Macey Center was the = first stop on a lecture tour that also includes Green Bank, W.Va. and = Charlottesville, Va.=20 Ekers gave a brief history in the advances of radio astronomy, starting, = of course, with Jansky and finishing with Ekers' vision of the field's = future. As he touched on events and discoveries, he pointed out how = serendipity played a part.=20 Serendipity, as Ekers defined it, is discovering something you are not = in search of. Ekers also laid out a pattern that most serendipitous = discoveries follow.=20 First, Ekers said, they are technology driven. Most serendipitous = discoveries, he said, occur within five years of the invention of a new = technology.=20 Second, the discoveries are unanticipated. Jansky, for example, = discovered radio signals from outside the Milky Way while investigating = static.=20 Third, the discoverers must know their equipment. They must be able to = know the difference between an error or malfunction in the equipment and = an unexpected result. John Bolton, a former Jansky lecturer and Ekers' = mentor, required his students to build their own radio telescopes before = they could use the existing equipment, so they had a working knowledge = of how the machines functioned.=20 Fourth, Ekers said, the observers must have curiosity and persistence. = In the example of Jansky, Bell Telephone, Jansky's employer, said the = interference was negligible and did not want him to pursue it.=20 The fifth element is a flash of insight, as when Jansky realized that = the signal was coming from a distance that was beyond our sun.=20 Finally, serendipitous discoveries must be made in the right time. Black = holes were rumored to exist, but could not be proven until the discovery = of quasars in 1963.=20 The biggest obstacle facing serendipitous discovery today is government = funding. The federal government, Ekers said, wants to know exactly what = is being studied and a timetable for discovery before they are willing = to fund the research.=20 Ekers said that often research will go in a direction that was original = unintended.=20 "If you build a great radio telescope, it will do great things, but it = might not be the things you proposed," said Ekers.=20 "You can't plan a discovery," said Ekers. He added that you can plan an = environment that fosters serendipity.=20 Another hinderence to discovery, according to Ekers is people who "know = too much." Ekers said that if you already know what to expect, you may = miss the unexpected.=20 "If you know too much, sometimes you won't make the obvious discovery."=20 Ekers outlined his view of future research. He said that he saw the only = remaining advancement in radio astronomy as an increase in observing = area.=20 "The volume of space sampled is the biggest area remaining," said Ekers, = who described a telescope he envisioned that would be able to accomplish = this feat.=20 Ekers said that he wanted to speak in Socorro because of his time spent = at the VLA. He was an assistant director for the National Radio = Astronomy Observatory, and in charge of the VLA from 1980 to 1987. ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C4CB08.1CDDC790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Saturday, November 13, 2004

Jansky lecturer stresses importance of = serendipity

Tom Treweek El Defensor Chieftain Reporter

TTREWEEK Dr. = Ronald Ekers=20 stressed the importance of serendipity in cosmological discovery during = his=20 recent presentation, the first in the Karl G. Jansky Lecture series. = Ekers'=20 appearance at Macey Center was the first stop on a lecture tour that = also=20 includes Green Bank, W.Va. and Charlottesville, Va.=20

Ekers gave a brief history in the advances of radio astronomy, = starting, of=20 course, with Jansky and finishing with Ekers' vision of the field's = future. As=20 he touched on events and discoveries, he pointed out how serendipity = played a=20 part.=20

Serendipity, as Ekers defined it, is discovering something you are = not in=20 search of. Ekers also laid out a pattern that most serendipitous = discoveries=20 follow.=20

First, Ekers said, they are technology driven. Most serendipitous=20 discoveries, he said, occur within five years of the invention of a new=20 technology.=20

Second, the discoveries are unanticipated. Jansky, for example, = discovered=20 radio signals from outside the Milky Way while investigating static.=20

Third, the discoverers must know their equipment. They must be able = to know=20 the difference between an error or malfunction in the equipment and an=20 unexpected result. John Bolton, a former Jansky lecturer and Ekers' = mentor,=20 required his students to build their own radio telescopes before they = could use=20 the existing equipment, so they had a working knowledge of how the = machines=20 functioned.=20

Fourth, Ekers said, the observers must have curiosity and = persistence. In the=20 example of Jansky, Bell Telephone, Jansky's employer, said the = interference was=20 negligible and did not want him to pursue it.=20

The fifth element is a flash of insight, as when Jansky realized that = the=20 signal was coming from a distance that was beyond our sun.=20

Finally, serendipitous discoveries must be made in the right time. = Black=20 holes were rumored to exist, but could not be proven until the discovery = of=20 quasars in 1963.=20

The biggest obstacle facing serendipitous discovery today is = government=20 funding. The federal government, Ekers said, wants to know exactly what = is being=20 studied and a timetable for discovery before they are willing to fund = the=20 research.=20

Ekers said that often research will go in a direction that was = original=20 unintended.=20

"If you build a great radio telescope, it will do great things, but = it might=20 not be the things you proposed," said Ekers.=20

"You can't plan a discovery," said Ekers. He added that you can plan = an=20 environment that fosters serendipity.=20

Another hinderence to discovery, according to Ekers is people who = "know too=20 much." Ekers said that if you already know what to expect, you may miss = the=20 unexpected.=20

"If you know too much, sometimes you won't make the obvious = discovery."=20

Ekers outlined his view of future research. He said that he saw the = only=20 remaining advancement in radio astronomy as an increase in observing = area.=20

"The volume of space sampled is the biggest area remaining," said = Ekers, who=20 described a telescope he envisioned that would be able to accomplish = this feat.=20

Ekers said that he wanted to speak in Socorro because of his time = spent at=20 the VLA. He was an assistant director for the National Radio Astronomy=20 Observatory, and in charge of the VLA from 1980 to 1987.

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C4CB08.1CDDC790-- From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov 15 08:58:31 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAFGwUUL026898 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id LAA03474 for public-list; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:46:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav5.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.109]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03470 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:46:06 -0800 Received: from 63.159.120.248 by BAY4-DAV5.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:45:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.120.248] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: NASA To Test Laser Communications With Mars Spacecraft Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:45:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4CB08.AA3B33C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:45:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2004 16:46:06.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[99DC4710:01C4CB32] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4CB08.AA3B33C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://space.com/spacenews/businessmonday_041115.html NASA To Test Laser Communications With Mars Spacecraft By Brian Berger Space News Staff Writer Work is underway to establish the first interplanetary laser = communication link. The $300 million NASA experiment, if successful, = will connect robotic spacecraft at Mars with scientists back on Earth = via a beam of light traveling some 300 million kilometers. For scientists eager to download bandwidth-intensive imagery and other = data collected by planetary orbiters, probes and landers, the laser = communications would offer a dramatic breakthrough in the amounts of = information spacecraft can reliably transmit back to Earth. The 5-watt laser NASA plans to test at Mars by the end of the decade is = expected to transmit data at rates nearly 10 times faster than any = existing interplanetary radio communications link. The difference, NASA = officials said, will be comparable to moving from a dial-up modem to a = broadband Internet connection. ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4CB08.AA3B33C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
http://spa= ce.com/spacenews/businessmonday_041115.html
 
NASA To Test Laser Communications = With Mars=20 Spacecraft

By Brian=20 Berger
Space=20 News Staff Writer

Work is underway to establish the first interplanetary laser = communication=20 link. The $300 million NASA experiment, if successful, will connect = robotic=20 spacecraft at Mars with scientists back on Earth via a beam of light = traveling=20 some 300 million kilometers.

For scientists eager to download bandwidth-intensive imagery and = other data=20 collected by planetary orbiters, probes and landers, the laser = communications=20 would offer a dramatic breakthrough in the amounts of information = spacecraft can=20 reliably transmit back to Earth.

The 5-watt laser NASA plans to test at Mars by the end of the decade = is=20 expected to transmit data at rates nearly 10 times faster than any = existing=20 interplanetary radio communications link. The difference, NASA officials = said,=20 will be comparable to moving from a dial-up modem to a broadband = Internet=20 connection.

 ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4CB08.AA3B33C0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Nov 17 11:20:28 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAHJKRUL019538 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id OAA13106 for public-list; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:05:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav11.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.115]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13102 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:05:01 -0800 Received: from 63.159.192.181 by BAY4-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:04:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.192.181] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: But remember you have to look really cool to fight the Matrix... Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:04:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4CCAE.618AF910" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:04:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 19:05:01.0953 (UTC) FILETIME=[5719D710:01C4CCD8] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4CCAE.618AF910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Top scientist asks: is life all just a dream? Times Online November 14, 2004 ************************* "Life, the universe and everything" may be no more than a giant computer simulation with humans reduced to bits of software, says Martin Rees, Royal Society professor of astronomy at Cambridge University, in a forthcoming BBC television documentary. Countering this, MIT professor Seth Lloyd said such a computer would have to be unimaginably... http://www.kurzweilai.net/email/newsRedirect.html?newsID=3D3965&m=3D7610<= http://www.kurzweilai.net/email/newsRedirect.html?newsID=3D3965&m=3D7610>= ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4CCAE.618AF910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Top scientist asks: is life all just a dream?

Times Online November 14, = 2004
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"Life, the universe and everything"
may be no more than a = giant=20 computer
simulation with humans reduced to
bits of software, says = Martin=20 Rees,
Royal Society professor of astronomy
at Cambridge = University, in=20 a
forthcoming BBC television
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unimaginably...

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------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4CCAE.618AF910-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Nov 17 12:47:21 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAHKlJUL016183 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id PAA15067 for public-list; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:25:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav30.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.60]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15063; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:25:01 -0800 Received: from 63.159.192.181 by BAY4-DAV30.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:24:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.192.181] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Cc: "BioAstro" Subject: SETI public: Arecibo Message sent 30 years ago to Messier 13 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:24:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01C4CCB9.7775A030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:24:01 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2004 20:25:01.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[839180D0:01C4CCE3] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C4CCB9.7775A030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Only 23,970 years to go until it gets there: http://www.seti-inst.edu/science/a-message.html http://rip.physics.unk.edu/Astronomy/AreciboMessage.html http://www.fourmilab.ch/goldberg/setimsg.html http://www.fourmilab.ch/goldberg/arecibo_decoded.html http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000123.html http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040511.html http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/99/11.11.99/Arecibo_message.html http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Nov99/Arecibo.message.ws.html http://www.coseti.org/arecibom.htm http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/arecibo.html ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C4CCB9.7775A030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Only 23,970 years to go until it gets there:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/99/11.11.99/Arecibo_message.= html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C4CCB9.7775A030-- From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Nov 18 01:57:54 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAI9vhUL025969 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id EAA02448 for public-list; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from ira.kharkov.ua (ira.kharkov.ua [195.5.57.219]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02444; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.103.9] (helo=aek) by ira.kharkov.ua with smtp (Exim 4.11) id 1CUiiZ-0001fn-00; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:36:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:41:37 +0200 From: "Institute of Radio Astronomy" Reply-To: rai@ira.kharkov.ua To: "public" Cc: "BioAstro " Subject: SETI public: Book abstract X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [en] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1CUiiZ-0001fn-00*dq8rTuqW336* Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Dear SETI colleagues, Hoping, the following abstract of my new book is interesting for you. Alexey V. Arkhipov ********************************************************************* Alexey V. Arkhipov UNSOLVED MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE, or What is Silenced by Astronomers Moscow: Veche, 2004. -- 432 p., 65 ill., in Russian, ISBN 5-94538-446-1 Space anomalies are unusual and rare astronomical phenomena which are not yet included in the paradigm of contemporary science, and are thus excluded from the attention of the astronomical majority. However, it is precisely such space anomalies that are promising material in the search for "space wonders" - possible manifestations of extra- terrestrial intelligence. This book is a collection of the author's reviews on potentially interesting but disgraced phenomena. The systematisation of diverse publications, which are as a rule from recognized scientific sources, in overview present several complexes of empirical facts, which seem to correspond to interpretations of possibly great significance in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Although other explanations are not excluded, the SETI aspects are interesting as important POSSIBILITIES. The ignoring of such possibilities is illogical and insecure from the perspectives of culture and the freedom of scientific inquiry, as well that of military security. Two-thirds of the book, twenty chapters, is occupied by analytical reviews of different aspects of non-classical or non-signal SETI: the search for traces of interstellar migrations; the danger of military conflicts between space civilisations; the possibility of a secret presence of ETI in our Solar System; the state of archaeological reconnaissance on the Moon and Mars; the discussion on the status, strategies and methodology of modern SETI; and an overview of the SETI organisations which are involved in non-signal SETI. More recent results and more publications are taken into account here than were in the preceding book by this author (Selenites; Moscow: Novation, 1998). In addition to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, the reader will find another eleven chapters on ignored astronomical phenomena such as the danger of superflashes of the Sun; unpredicted solar darkenings; ghost-comets; anomalous meteors; dust clouds and night lights on Mercury; mysteries of Venus and Jupiter; and some ethno- and archaeo-astronomical riddles. Even some cryptozoological problems are touched upon in the last chapter. This various material illustrates the main conclusions of the book: - there is the tendency to ignore unexplained empirical facts in modern science; - this tendency leads to a new form of Index Expurgatorius, i.e. a list of rejected subjects which are closed for discussion among respectable scientists; - according to the history of science, such prohibitions and intentional ignorance have repeatedly led to the loss of valuable data, time and methods, and to confusion and expensive re-discoveries; - therefore, it is reasonable to study unexplained phenomena and ignored possibilities. Only investigation, unlike rejection a priori, can find a truth. The book is provided with an extensive and detailed bibliography. This is a unique handbook in the field of forbidden astronomy. Amateurs and professionals alike will find in the book original ideas and interesting material from little known and rare sources. From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Nov 18 08:23:40 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAIGNcUL014680 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id LAA10441 for public-list; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:08:36 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav26.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.56]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10433 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:08:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.204.99 by BAY4-DAV26.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:07:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.204.99] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Geoff Marcy speaking on exoplanets and alien life at Cornell on Nov. 29 and Dec. 2 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:07:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C4CD5E.CA7DF9D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:07:28 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2004 16:08:00.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6D65C80:01C4CD88] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C4CD5E.CA7DF9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Astronomy Gold Lecture: "Planets, Yellowstone and Prospects for Life in the = Universe," Geoff Marcy, University of California-Berkeley, Dec. 2, 4:45 = p.m., Schwartz Auditorium, Rockefeller Hall. = http://www.astro.cornell.edu/events/gold/fall2003/index.php We have now discovered over 140 planetary systems to compare with our = own Solar System. The comparisons are revealing whether habitable = planets are common or rare in our Milky Way Galaxy. Meanwhile on Earth, = life thrives in extraordinariliy harsh environments, suggesting that = life elsewhere in the Galaxy must be abundant. Searches for = extraterrestrial life, both microbial and intelligent, are being pursued = vigorously. However, there is a nagging absence of evidence of other = advanced civilizations.=20 Astronomy & Spaces Sciences "Transiting Extrasolar Planets," Drake Demming, NASA Goddard Space = Flight Center, Nov. 18, 4:30 p.m., 105 Space Sciences Building. "The Properties of Planetary Systems," Geoff Marcy, University of = California-Berkeley, Nov. 29, 4:30 p.m., Schwartz Auditorium, = Rockefeller Hall. About 6% of nearby stars harbor Jupiter and Saturn-sized planets with = orbits smaller than that of Mars. The planet mass distribution rises = rapidly toward smaller masses, with the lowest detectable masses being = near that of Neptune. Multiple planets are common, and many reside in = dynamical resonances which, together with high orbital eccentricities, = suggest that gravitational interactions between planet-planet and = planet-disk shape the final architectures of planetary systems. The = occurrence of planets correlates with the abundance of heavy elements in = the host star.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C4CD5E.CA7DF9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Astronomy
Gold Lecture: "Planets, Yellowstone and Prospects for Life in the = Universe," Geoff Marcy, University of California-Berkeley, Dec. 2, = 4:45 p.m.,=20 Schwartz Auditorium, Rockefeller Hall.
We have now discovered over 140 planetary systems to compare with = our own=20 Solar System. The comparisons are revealing whether habitable planets = are common=20 or rare in our Milky Way Galaxy. Meanwhile on Earth, life thrives in=20 extraordinariliy harsh environments, suggesting that life elsewhere in = the=20 Galaxy must be abundant. Searches for extraterrestrial life, both = microbial and=20 intelligent, are being pursued vigorously. However, there is a nagging = absence=20 of evidence of other advanced civilizations.
Astronomy & Spaces Sciences
"Transiting Extrasolar Planets," Drake Demming, NASA Goddard = Space Flight=20 Center, Nov. 18, 4:30 p.m., 105 Space Sciences Building.

"The Properties of Planetary Systems," Geoff Marcy, = University of=20 California-Berkeley, Nov. 29, 4:30 p.m., Schwartz Auditorium, = Rockefeller=20 Hall.
 
About 6% of nearby stars harbor Jupiter and Saturn-sized planets = with=20 orbits smaller than that of Mars. The planet mass distribution rises = rapidly=20 toward smaller masses, with the lowest detectable masses being near = that of=20 Neptune. Multiple planets are common, and many reside in dynamical = resonances=20 which, together with high orbital eccentricities, suggest that = gravitational=20 interactions between planet-planet and planet-disk shape the final=20 architectures of planetary systems. The occurrence of planets = correlates with=20 the abundance of heavy elements in the host star.
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C4CD5E.CA7DF9D0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Nov 19 08:00:07 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAJG05UL015897 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA10886 for public-list; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:44:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav10.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.114]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10882 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:44:09 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.196.189 by BAY4-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:43:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.196.189] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: You Made a Difference -World Community Grid Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:43:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0119_01C4CE24.AA02EF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:43:53 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2004 15:44:09.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BD00A10:01C4CE4E] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C4CE24.AA02EF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Louis Friedman -The Planetary = Society=20 To: Planetary Society=20 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: You Made a Difference -World Community Grid Dear Planetary Society Members, supporters and SETI@ home volunteers, We're always telling our Members and supporters that "You Make it Happen." And here's proof you do! Media around the world just broke the story of the World Community Grid, a massive project that will use the Internet in cutting-edge health sciences research. This is a direct descendant of SETI@ home, the project that you made happen. MSNBC reports that the World Community Grid, developed in collaboration with the National Institutes of Health, the World Health Organization, the United Nations and other organizations, "owes a debt to SETI@ home, which in the 1990s first popularized the notion that PC users could donate computer time for radio telescope astronomy data analysis via the Internet." This exciting new project will, according to the New York Times, help "unlock the genetic mysteries of illnesses like AIDS, Alzheimer's disease, malaria and cancer." Your support for SETI@ home has also flowered in the creation of Berkeley Online Infrastructure for Network Computing, affectionately known as BOINC, which also boasts innovative projects, including: - Einstein@ home, a project that investigates the fundamental structure of time and space in the universe by looking for pulsars based on their gravity-wave emissions; - PlanetQuest, which is seeking extrasolar planets by searching astrophotographs for occlusions; and - LHC@ home from CERN (the famous laboratory located near Geneva, Switzerland), a project that is optimizing the design of the world's largest particle accelerator. None of this would be happening without your support. Five years ago, when SETI@ home first went looking for sponsors, just about no one saw the great potential this software possessed for making a difference in this world. No one, except for the Planetary Society and its Members, that is. The Society, as the project's founding sponsor, got it off the ground. The Planetary Society - with Members and supporters around the world - really does make it happen. Thank you! With best wishes, Louis Friedman _____________________________________ For more information on BOINC go to: http://planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_082404.html Support Planetary Society Projects at: https://planetary.org/donations.html =20 _____________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C4CE24.AA02EF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original = Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: You Made a Difference -World Community = Grid

Dear Planetary Society Members, supporters
and SETI@ = home=20 volunteers,

We're always telling our Members and supporters = that
"You=20 Make it Happen."  And here's proof you do!

Media around the = world=20 just broke the story of the
World Community Grid, a massive project = that will=20 use
the Internet in cutting-edge health sciences research.
This is = a=20 direct descendant of SETI@ home, the project
that you made=20 happen.

MSNBC reports that the World Community Grid, = developed
in=20 collaboration with the National Institutes of Health,
the World = Health=20 Organization, the United Nations and
other organizations, "owes a = debt to=20 SETI@ home, which
in the 1990s first popularized the notion that PC=20 users
could donate computer time for radio telescope = astronomy
data=20 analysis via the Internet."

This exciting new project will, = according to=20 the New York
Times, help "unlock the genetic mysteries of = illnesses
like=20 AIDS, Alzheimer's disease, malaria and cancer."

Your support for = SETI@=20 home has also flowered in the
creation of Berkeley Online = Infrastructure for=20 Network
Computing, affectionately known as BOINC, which = also
boasts=20 innovative projects, including:

- Einstein@ home, a project that=20 investigates the
fundamental structure of time and space in the=20 universe
by looking for pulsars based on their gravity-wave=20 emissions;

- PlanetQuest, which is seeking extrasolar planets=20 by
searching astrophotographs for occlusions; and

- LHC@ home = from=20 CERN (the famous laboratory located near
Geneva, Switzerland), a = project that=20 is optimizing the
design of the world's largest particle=20 accelerator.

None of this would be happening without your=20 support.
Five years ago, when SETI@ home first went looking = for
sponsors,=20 just about no one saw the great potential
this software possessed for = making=20 a difference in
this world. No one, except for the Planetary = Society
and=20 its Members, that is.  The Society, as the project's
founding = sponsor,=20 got it off the ground.

The Planetary Society - with Members and=20 supporters
around the world - really does make it happen.
Thank=20 you!

With best wishes,

Louis=20 Friedman

_____________________________________

For more=20 information on BOINC go to:
http://planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_082404.html

Support=20 Planetary Society Projects at:
https://planetary.org/donat= ions.html
 
_____________________________________

<= BR>
------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C4CE24.AA02EF00-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Nov 19 09:27:49 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAJHRmUL000900 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id MAA13274 for public-list; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:15:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav6.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.110]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13270; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:14:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.196.189 by BAY4-DAV6.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:13:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.196.189] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: , "public" Cc: "BioAstro " References: Subject: Re: SETI public: Book abstract Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:13:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0279_01C4CE31.25A646F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:13:15 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2004 17:14:01.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[29C6B290:01C4CE5B] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0279_01C4CE31.25A646F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How and where can one order this book? Thank you. Larry ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Institute of Radio Astronomy=20 To: public=20 Cc: BioAstro Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:41 AM Subject: SETI public: Book abstract=20 Dear SETI colleagues, Hoping, the following abstract of my new book is interesting for you. Alexey V. Arkhipov ********************************************************************* Alexey V. Arkhipov UNSOLVED MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE, or What is Silenced by Astronomers Moscow: Veche, 2004. -- 432 p., 65 ill., in Russian, ISBN = 5-94538-446-1 Space anomalies are unusual and rare astronomical phenomena which = are not yet included in the paradigm of contemporary science, and are=20 thus excluded from the attention of the astronomical majority. = However, it is precisely such space anomalies that are promising material in = the search for "space wonders" - possible manifestations of extra- terrestrial intelligence. This book is a collection of the author's=20 reviews on potentially interesting but disgraced phenomena.=20 The systematisation of diverse publications, which are as a rule from=20 recognized scientific sources, in overview present several complexes=20 of empirical facts, which seem to correspond to interpretations of=20 possibly great significance in the search for extraterrestrial=20 intelligence. Although other explanations are not excluded, the SETI=20 aspects are interesting as important POSSIBILITIES. The ignoring of=20 such possibilities is illogical and insecure from the perspectives of=20 culture and the freedom of scientific inquiry, as well that of = military security. Two-thirds of the book, twenty chapters, is occupied by = analytical=20 reviews of different aspects of non-classical or non-signal SETI:=20 the search for traces of interstellar migrations; the danger of =20 military conflicts between space civilisations; the possibility of=20 a secret presence of ETI in our Solar System; the state of=20 archaeological reconnaissance on the Moon and Mars; the discussion=20 on the status, strategies and methodology of modern SETI; and an=20 overview of the SETI organisations which are involved in non-signal=20 SETI. More recent results and more publications are taken into account = here than were in the preceding book by this author (Selenites; = Moscow: Novation, 1998). In addition to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, the=20 reader will find another eleven chapters on ignored astronomical=20 phenomena such as the danger of superflashes of the Sun; unpredicted=20 solar darkenings; ghost-comets; anomalous meteors; dust clouds and=20 night lights on Mercury; mysteries of Venus and Jupiter; and some=20 ethno- and archaeo-astronomical riddles. Even some cryptozoological=20 problems are touched upon in the last chapter. This various material illustrates the main conclusions of the=20 book: - there is the tendency to ignore unexplained empirical facts in = modern science; - this tendency leads to a new form of Index Expurgatorius, i.e. a = list of rejected subjects which are closed for discussion among = respectable scientists; - according to the history of science, such prohibitions and=20 intentional ignorance have repeatedly led to the loss of valuable = data, time and methods, and to confusion and expensive re-discoveries; - therefore, it is reasonable to study unexplained phenomena and = ignored=20 possibilities. Only investigation, unlike rejection a priori, can find = a=20 truth. The book is provided with an extensive and detailed bibliography. = This is a unique handbook in the field of forbidden astronomy. = Amateurs and professionals alike will find in the book original ideas and = interesting=20 material from little known and rare sources. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0279_01C4CE31.25A646F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How and where can one order this book?  Thank you.
 
Larry
 
----- Original Message -----
To: public
Cc: BioAstro
Sent: Thursday, November 18, = 2004 4:41=20 AM
Subject: SETI public: Book = abstract=20

Dear SETI colleagues,

Hoping, the following = abstract of=20 my new book is interesting for you.

Alexey V.=20 = Arkhipov

*********************************************************= ************

Alexey=20 V. Arkhipov

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE, or What is = Silenced by=20 Astronomers

Moscow: Veche, 2004. -- 432 p., 65 ill., in = Russian, ISBN=20 5-94538-446-1

     Space anomalies are = unusual and=20 rare astronomical phenomena which
are not yet included in the = paradigm of=20 contemporary science, and are
thus excluded from the attention of = the=20 astronomical majority. However,
it is precisely such space = anomalies that=20 are promising material in the
search for "space wonders" - possible = manifestations of extra-
terrestrial intelligence. This book is a=20 collection of the author's
reviews on potentially interesting but=20 disgraced phenomena.
The systematisation of diverse publications, = which=20 are as a rule from
recognized scientific sources, in overview = present=20 several complexes
of empirical facts, which seem to correspond to=20 interpretations of
possibly great significance in the search for=20 extraterrestrial
intelligence. Although other explanations are not = excluded, the SETI
aspects are interesting as important = POSSIBILITIES. The=20 ignoring of
such possibilities is illogical and insecure from the=20 perspectives of
culture and the freedom of scientific inquiry, as = well=20 that of military
security.
     Two-thirds = of the=20 book, twenty chapters, is occupied by analytical
reviews of = different=20 aspects of non-classical or non-signal SETI:
the search for traces = of=20 interstellar migrations; the danger of 
military conflicts = between=20 space civilisations; the possibility of
a secret presence of ETI = in our=20 Solar System; the state of
archaeological reconnaissance on the = Moon and=20 Mars; the discussion
on the status, strategies and methodology of = modern=20 SETI; and an
overview of the SETI organisations which are involved = in=20 non-signal
SETI. More recent results and more publications are = taken into=20 account
here than were in the preceding book by this author = (Selenites;=20 Moscow:
Novation, 1998).
     In addition to = the=20 search for extraterrestrial intelligence, the
reader will find = another=20 eleven chapters on ignored astronomical
phenomena such as the = danger of=20 superflashes of the Sun; unpredicted
solar darkenings; = ghost-comets;=20 anomalous meteors; dust clouds and
night lights on Mercury; = mysteries of=20 Venus and Jupiter; and some
ethno- and archaeo-astronomical = riddles. Even=20 some cryptozoological
problems are touched upon in the last=20 chapter.
     This various material illustrates = the=20 main conclusions of the
book:
- there is the tendency to ignore = unexplained empirical facts in modern
science;
- this tendency = leads to=20 a new form of Index Expurgatorius, i.e. a list
of  rejected = subjects=20 which are closed for discussion among respectable
scientists;
-=20 according to the history of science, such prohibitions and =
intentional=20 ignorance have repeatedly led to the loss of valuable data,
time = and=20 methods, and to confusion and expensive re-discoveries;
- = therefore, it is=20 reasonable to study unexplained phenomena and ignored =
possibilities. Only=20 investigation, unlike rejection a priori, can find a=20
truth.
     The book is provided with an = extensive=20 and detailed bibliography.
This is a unique handbook in the field = of=20 forbidden astronomy. Amateurs
and professionals alike will find in = the book=20 original ideas and interesting
material from little known and rare = sources.
 


------=_NextPart_000_0279_01C4CE31.25A646F0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Nov 19 10:04:08 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAJI47UL008367 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id MAA14373 for public-list; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:53:11 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14364 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from setileague.org ([129.21.43.25]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041119175306.MFAW4719.out006.verizon.net@setileague.org>; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:53:06 -0600 Message-ID: <419E3302.4090701@setileague.org> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:53:06 -0500 From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Organization: The SETI League, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax; CDonDemand-Dom) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pressrel@setileague.org Subject: SETI public: SETI League press release Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [129.21.43.25] at Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:53:02 -0600 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Seeking Alien Dialog through an Accessible Web Presence For more information contact: Dr. H. Paul Shuch, Executive Director (201) 641-1770, or email info@setileague.org Toronto, ON, Canada.., November 2004 -- Invitation to ETI, a group of 90 scientists and artists engaged in an online Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) experiment, has overhauled and expanded its World Wide Web presence, in hopes of stimulating a dialog with other intelligent civilizations in the Universe. "Because their technology is probably highly advanced," states Prof. Allen Tough of Toronto, the group's founder, "some extraterrestrial species may be using unobtrusive methods of observing humankind and other fledgling civilizations in this Galaxy. As its name indicates, the Invitation to ETI invites these visitors to dialogue with all of humanity. Sooner or later, advanced extraterrestrials will have an enormous impact on humankind." The group's website, www.ieti.org, has recently been overhauled by Dr. H. Paul Shuch, executive director of the non-affiliated SETI League, Inc., and Web Design Consultant for Invitation to ETI, to maximize accessibility. "Throughout the Web community," Shuch explains, "there is a growing awareness that this enabling technology must not be restricted to the able-bodied alone. Websites are striving to be accessible to persons with a variety of disabilities, and standards are emerging to aid in this process. What greater accessibility challenge is there than making the Invitation to ETI accessible to our cosmic companions, creatures with whom we may have nothing biological in common?" In addition to a graphical overhaul (which he admits is purely for the benefit of the website's sighted human visitors), Shuch has embraced Bobby standards in an attempt to make the site accessible to alien web surfers. Bobby is an organization that validates websites for ease of access by humans (and, Shuch hopes, extraterrestrials) with a wide range of physical abilities and differences. Every page of the new website is tested for Bobby AAA compliance, as well as conformance to standards established by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). "Like all websites," emphasizes Shuch, "this is a work in progress. However, our new accessible design is intended to set the direction for future enhancements." Dr. Shuch has been assisted in the website overhaul by Dr. Scarlett Wang, the project's Webmaster. Dr. Wang is responsible for the day-to-day maintenance of the ieti.org website. She became the project manager 16 months ago. Although several of the 90 members of the Invitation to ETI team happen also to be active members of the nonprofit SETI League, the latter organization concentrates primarily on conventional radio telescope-based SETI. The focus of the Invitation, on the other hand, is to attract the attention of extraterrestrial civilizations that have invented technologies for monitoring our terrestrial Internet. This could be done through physical presence, robotic exploration of our Solar System, or long-range telecommunications. Largely using radio telescopes and optical telescopes, SETI scientists seek to determine whether humankind is alone in the universe. Since Congress terminated NASA's SETI funding in 1993, The SETI League and other scientific groups have privatized the research. Amateur and professional scientists interested in participating in the search for intelligent alien life, and citizens wishing to help support it, should email join @ setileague.org, check the SETI League Web site at http://www.setileague.org/, send a fax to +1 (201) 641-1771, or contact The SETI League, Inc. membership hotline at +1 (800) TAU-SETI. Be sure to provide us with a postal address to which we will mail further information. The SETI League, Inc. is a membership-supported, non-profit [501(c)(3)], educational and scientific corporation dedicated to the scientific Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence. P.S. Tearsheets are always appreciated. Thank you. -- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D. Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555, Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771; URL http://www.setileague.org email work: n6tx@setileague.org; home: drseti@cal.berkeley.edu "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Nov 20 07:27:10 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAKFR8UL030339 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA16249 for public-list; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:16:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav32.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.62]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16245 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:16:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.128.45 by BAY4-DAV32.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:15:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.128.45] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Following in Pioneer's Footsteps Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:15:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C4CEE9.ECB25AF0"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:15:56 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2004 15:16:00.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7C77D80:01C4CF13] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C4CEE9.ECB25AF0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0034_01C4CEE9.ECB4A4E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C4CEE9.ECB4A4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Published online: 19 November 2004; | doi:10.1038/news041115-16=20 Following in Pioneer's footsteps Philip Ball =20 Calls grow for a mission to find out why old space probes are slowing = down. http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041115/full/041115-16.html Lessons Learned from the Pioneers 10/11 for a Mission to Test the = Pioneer Anomaly Authors: Slava G. = Turyshev,= Michael Martin = Nieto, John = D. = Anderson Comments: 11 pages, invited talk given at ``35th COSPAR Scientific = Assebly,'' July 18-24, 2004, Paris, France Analysis of the radio-metric tracking data from the Pioneer 10/11 = spacecraft at distances between 20--70 astronomical units (AU) from the = Sun has consistently indicated the presence of an anomalous, small, = constant Doppler frequency drift. The drift is a blue-shift, uniformly = changing with rate a_t =3D (2.92 +/- 0.44) x 10^(-18) s/s^2. It can also = be interpreted as a constant acceleration of a_P =3D (8.74 +/- 1.33) x = 10^(-8) cm/s^2 directed towards the Sun. Although it is suspected that = there is a systematic origin to the effect, none has been found. As a = result, the nature of this anomaly has become of growing interest. Here = we discuss the details of our recent investigation focusing on the = effects both external to and internal to the spacecraft, as well as = those due to modeling and computational techniques. We review some of = the mechanisms proposed to explain the anomaly and show their inability = to account for the observed behavior of the anomaly. We also present = lessons learned from this investigation for a potential deep-space = experiment that will reveal the origin of the discovered anomaly and = also will characterize its properties with an accuracy of at least two = orders of magnitude below the anomaly's size. A number of critical = requirements and design considerations for such a mission are outlined = and addressed.=20 http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0409117 ------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C4CEE9.ECB4A4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Published online: = 19 November 2004;=20 | doi:10.1038/news041115-16

Following in Pioneer's footsteps

Philip = Ball=20
3D""=20
Calls grow=20 for a mission to find out why old space probes are slowing=20 down.
 
 
 

Lessons Learned from the Pioneers 10/11 for a Mission to Test the = Pioneer=20 Anomaly

Authors: S= lava G.=20 Turyshev, Mich= ael=20 Martin Nieto, J= ohn D.=20 Anderson
Comments: 11 pages, invited talk given at ``35th = COSPAR=20 Scientific Assebly,'' July 18-24, 2004, Paris, France
Analysis of the radio-metric tracking data from the Pioneer = 10/11=20 spacecraft at distances between 20--70 astronomical units (AU) from = the Sun=20 has consistently indicated the presence of an anomalous, small, = constant=20 Doppler frequency drift. The drift is a blue-shift, uniformly changing = with=20 rate a_t =3D (2.92 +/- 0.44) x 10^(-18) s/s^2. It can also be = interpreted as a=20 constant acceleration of a_P =3D (8.74 +/- 1.33) x 10^(-8) cm/s^2 = directed=20 towards the Sun. Although it is suspected that there is a systematic = origin to=20 the effect, none has been found. As a result, the nature of this = anomaly has=20 become of growing interest. Here we discuss the details of our recent=20 investigation focusing on the effects both external to and internal to = the=20 spacecraft, as well as those due to modeling and computational = techniques. We=20 review some of the mechanisms proposed to explain the anomaly and show = their=20 inability to account for the observed behavior of the anomaly. We also = present=20 lessons learned from this investigation for a potential deep-space = experiment=20 that will reveal the origin of the discovered anomaly and also will=20 characterize its properties with an accuracy of at least two orders of = magnitude below the anomaly's size. A number of critical requirements = and=20 design considerations for such a mission are outlined and addressed.=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_001_0034_01C4CEE9.ECB4A4E0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C4CEE9.ECB25AF0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="spacer.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Location: http://www.nature.com/images/spacer.gif R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C4CEE9.ECB25AF0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov 22 08:20:01 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAMGJxUL027398 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id LAA28865 for public-list; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:02:45 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav9.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.113]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28859 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:02:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.124.217 by BAY4-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:01:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.124.217] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Search for Other Earths in National Geographic - December, 2004 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:01:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0315_01C4D082.A65041E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:01:42 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2004 16:02:01.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A643FB0:01C4D0AC] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C4D082.A65041E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In an astronomical breakthrough, scientists are discovering planet after = planet circling distant stars as the search narrows for a world like our = own.=20 http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0412/feature4/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C4D082.A65041E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In an astronomical = breakthrough,=20 scientists are discovering planet after planet circling distant stars as = the=20 search narrows for a world like our own.
 
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0412/feature4/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C4D082.A65041E0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Nov 23 01:52:52 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAN9qlUL003876 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id EAA25552 for public-list; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:29:13 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from ira.kharkov.ua (ira.kharkov.ua [195.5.57.219]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25539 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.103.9] (helo=aek) by ira.kharkov.ua with smtp (Exim 4.11) id 1CWWtB-0003S6-00; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:23:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:28:16 +0200 From: "Institute of Radio Astronomy" Reply-To: rai@ira.kharkov.ua To: "LARRY KLAES " Cc: "public " Subject: RE: Re: SETI public: Book abstract X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [en] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1CWWtB-0003S6-00*2KZBVaBaZ0Q* Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Thank you for your interest in my book <> (Moscow: Veche, 2004). Theoretically this book could be obtained via Internet shops, e.g.: http://www.top-kniga.ru/Scripts/pic.cgi?pin=54000014846 http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1716192/ However, practically these web sites (as the book) are in Russian. As alternative, the book exchange could be considered. Alexey Arkhipov >From: "LARRY KLAES" >To: , "public" >Subject: Re: SETI public: Book abstract >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:13:15 -0500 > >How and where can one order this book? Thank you. > >Larry From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Nov 24 17:17:06 2004 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAP1H4UL028309 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id UAA18859 for public-list; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:04:36 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav10.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.114]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18850 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:04:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.159.173.89 by BAY4-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:03:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.159.173.89] X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com] X-Sender: ljk4@msn.com From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Fw: Young Stars Poised for Production of Rocky Planets (ESO PR 27/04) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:03:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4D260.ADCAA9D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0009.2900 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:03:34 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2004 01:04:00.0933 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6399D50:01C4D28A] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4D260.ADCAA9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: esonews@eso.org=20 To: ljk4@msn.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: Young Stars Poised for Production of Rocky Planets (ESO PR = 27/04) Dear subscribers, One of the currently hottest astrophysical topics - the hunt for Earth-like planets around other stars - has just received an important impetus from new observations with the ESO VLT Interferometer. 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Dear subscribers,

One of the currently hottest=20 astrophysical topics - the hunt for
Earth-like planets around other = stars -=20 has just received an important
impetus from new observations with the = ESO VLT=20 Interferometer. Unique
infrared spectra of the dust in the innermost = regions=20 of the
proto-planetary discs around three young stars show that in = all=20 three,
the right ingredients are present in the right place to=20 start
formation of rocky planets at these stars. Read about this=20 new
research result at:

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From the (mostly) frozen Alaska Tundra comes this Holiday Cheer.
 
Tomorrow we head even further north to Lake Louise and my brother-in-law's cabin.
 
Stay well everyone. Life is good!
 
Dave Ocame


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Dave Ocame, N1YVV 
Awards Chair
The SETILeague, Inc
www.setileague.org

East Shore Park Observatory
FN31ng
-72.53856 longitude
41.16797 latitude
Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and,
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