From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Nov  1 07:47:38 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA1Fla1J014647;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:47:37 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA29701
	for public-list; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:40:03 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav157.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.187])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29697;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:40:01 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:39:30 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.22 by bay4-dav157.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:39:29 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.22]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>, "volcor" <volcor@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:39:24 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0018_01C3A064.6A9E2A30"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV157Z4AZs7db00019004@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2003 15:39:30.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[56F62D00:01C3A08E]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0018_01C3A064.6A9E2A30
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.setileague.org/editor/flagerth.htm

One Huge Step for Man

by Dr. H. Paul Shuch, Executive Director

James Cadle was, frankly, offended. It was July of 1969, and in the Sea o=
f Tranquility, men from the planet Earth had first set foot upon the Moon=
. Then, they planted the US flag. The Illinois artist considered himself =
a loyal American. Still, he was disturbed by this blatant show of nationa=
lism. True, it was nationalism that motivated the Space Race, but with th=
e race now won, wasn't it time to put all that behind us? =20
Putting palette before patriotism, Cadle created the Flag of Earth, a ban=
ner which he hoped would grace future space missions. Its yellow, blue an=
d white circles, on a field black as space, starkly represented the Sun, =
Earth and Moon. His dream was to further the sentiment expressed on the p=
laque left behind by Apollo Eleven: Here Men from the Planet Earth First =
Set Foot Upon the Moon. =20
The Flag never successfully penetrated the NASA bureaucracy, but it began=
 to permeate public consciousness. Copyrighted in 1970 and distributed th=
rough Cadle's newly-formed company Flag of Earth International, it came t=
o symbolize for me the global nature of SETI science. Today, the Flag of =
Earth flies from every major SETI facility in the world, including The SE=
TI League's moonbounce beacon, the Very Small Array, and many of our Proj=
ect Argus stations. =20
Although he copyrighted and commercialized his Flag, Cadle never envision=
ed it as a path to profits. He has always offered it at reasonable cost, =
never charged shipping or handling fees, and consistently maintained its =
quality by personally supervising the production of each and every Flag o=
f Earth. =20
Today, November 1, 2003, James Cadle has transferred the Flag of Earth co=
pyright into the public domain. Soon, you may begin to see it appearing o=
n bumper stickers, t-shirts, and coffee mugs sold at souvenir stands arou=
nd the planet. Nothing could please the artist more than to see his symbo=
l universally adopted. =20
Still, we in The SETI League will continue to purchase our flags from Fla=
g of Earth International <www.flagofearth.com>, and we encourage our memb=
ers to do the same. It's the least we can do for James Cadle, who gave us=
 our global banner, and has now given us his copyright. =20
That's one huge step for man. =20

------=_NextPart_001_0018_01C3A064.6A9E2A30
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV><A href=3D"htt=
p://www.setileague.org/editor/flagerth.htm">http://www.setileague.org/edi=
tor/flagerth.htm</A><BR><BR><STRONG><FONT size=3D5>One Huge Step for Man<=
/FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>by =
Dr. H. Paul Shuch, Executive Director</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRON=
G>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV> <P>James Cadle was, frankly, offended. It was July o=
f 1969, and in the Sea of Tranquility, men from the planet Earth had firs=
t set foot upon the Moon. Then, they planted the US flag. The Illinois ar=
tist considered himself a loyal American. Still, he was disturbed by this=
 blatant show of nationalism. True, it was nationalism that motivated the=
 Space Race, but with the race now won, wasn't it time to put all that be=
hind us?  <P>Putting palette before patriotism, Cadle created the Flag of=
 Earth, a banner which he hoped would grace future space missions. Its ye=
llow, blue and white circles, on a field black as space, starkly represen=
ted the Sun, Earth and Moon. His dream was to further the sentiment expre=
ssed on the plaque left behind by Apollo Eleven: Here Men from the Planet=
 Earth First Set Foot Upon the Moon.  <P>The Flag never successfully pene=
trated the NASA bureaucracy, but it began to permeate public consciousnes=
s. Copyrighted in 1970 and distributed through Cadle's newly-formed compa=
ny Flag of Earth International, it came to symbolize for me the global na=
ture of SETI science. Today, the Flag of Earth flies from every major SET=
I facility in the world, including The SETI League's moonbounce beacon, t=
he Very Small Array, and many of our Project Argus stations.  <P>Although=
 he copyrighted and commercialized his Flag, Cadle never envisioned it as=
 a path to profits. He has always offered it at reasonable cost, never ch=
arged shipping or handling fees, and consistently maintained its quality =
by personally supervising the production of each and every Flag of Earth.=
  <P>Today, November 1, 2003, James Cadle has transferred the Flag of Ear=
th copyright into the public domain. Soon, you may begin to see it appear=
ing on bumper stickers, t-shirts, and coffee mugs sold at souvenir stands=
 around the planet. Nothing could please the artist more than to see his =
symbol universally adopted.  <P>Still, we in The SETI League will continu=
e to purchase our flags from Flag of Earth International &lt;<A href=3D"h=
ttp://www.flagofearth.com/">www.flagofearth.com</A>&gt;, and we encourage=
 our members to do the same. It's the least we can do for James Cadle, wh=
o gave us our global banner, and has now given us his copyright.  <P>That=
's one <I>huge</I> step for man. </P> <P>&nbsp;</P></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0018_01C3A064.6A9E2A30--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Nov  1 08:06:32 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA1G6U1J001003;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:06:31 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA00242
	for public-list; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:59:32 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav70.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.100])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00237;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:59:26 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:57:55 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.22 by bay4-dav70.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:57:55 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.22]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: The Physics of Extraterrestrial Civilizations
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:57:47 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C3A066.FC035110"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV70IZS2TRqf6000002d6@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2003 15:57:55.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA1CB2F0:01C3A090]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C3A066.FC035110
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Co-Founder of String Field Theory Explores the Physics of ET

http://www.space.com/entertainment/michio_kaku.html

Renowned physicist, author, and co-founder of 'String Field Theory', Dr M=
ichio Kaku believes that alien civilisations may have learnt to harness t=
he energy of galaxies and travel through the universe using wormholes. Dr=
 Kaku has described what we might expect of alien cultures in an article =
on his website, titled "The Physics of Extra-Terrestrial Civilisations".

------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C3A066.FC035110
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Co-Founder of =
String Field Theory Explores the Physics of ET<BR></DIV> <DIV>http://www.=
space.com/entertainment/michio_kaku.html<BR><BR>Renowned physicist, autho=
r, and co-founder of 'String Field Theory', Dr Michio Kaku believes that =
alien civilisations may have learnt to harness the energy of galaxies and=
 travel through the universe using wormholes. Dr Kaku has described what =
we might expect of alien cultures in an article on his website, titled "T=
he Physics of Extra-Terrestrial Civilisations".<BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTM=
L>

------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C3A066.FC035110--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Nov  1 17:32:53 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA21Wp1J000876;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:32:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id UAA11432
	for public-list; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:17:18 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from blueeyes.xprs.net (smtp.xprs.net [66.81.6.6])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11428
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:17:15 -0500 (EST)
Received: from davidmad (66-2-141-96-phi-06.cvx.algx.net [66.2.141.96])
	by blueeyes.xprs.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id hA21YFTw011939;
	Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:34:16 -0800
Message-ID: <000301c3a0df$0b618f00$608d0242@davidmad>
From: "David Madison" <maddad@Maddad.org>
To: <public@setileague.org>, <Maddad@Maddad.org>
Subject: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 20:17:10 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk

The SETI effort is commendable, especially for its pan-global cooperation.
Raise your Flag of Earth wherever SETI is the theme.  However, the landing
on the Moon deserves the American flag because it is entirely an American
accomplishment.

If Sam Smith builds a house then it is appropriate for him to place a plaque
above the doorway saying, "Built by the Smiths".  Sam would laugh if Joe
Blow down the street says, "Wait a minute; you need to include the Blow
family name on that plaque as well because I live on this street too!"  Joe
spent none of his own money building the house, and he gave none of his own
sweat to the construction either.  The accomplishment is Sam's alone and it
is Sam's right alone to decide on the plaque for his home.

America put men on the Moon.  Not the Soviet Union, not China, not Japan,
not Germany, not France, and not any other country or even all other
countries combined.  We did.  At colossal expense and will, we did.

The very existence of 34 years with no other country having matched our feat
gives eloquent testimony to its difficulty.  Only recently has the third
country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.  The Moon is a
thousand times as far away and requires life support for many days, not just
minutes.

Leave the PC police in their barracks and allow the Moon landing its
rightful place as America's accomplishment.  Let my American flag fly with
well earned pride.


From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 01:24:35 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA29OY1J023317;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:24:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id EAA20782
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 04:16:23 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from app3.nasc.inter.net (nasc-out-2.nasc.inter.net [203.176.60.254])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20778
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 04:16:21 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ip6-207.eyrkonaeac07.dialup.ca.telus.com ([209.29.97.207] helo=MIKE-MXP)
	by app3.nasc.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2)
	id 1AGEKd-000655-00
	for public@setileague.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 04:15:36 -0500
Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20031102041454.00e02390@mail.interlog.com>
X-Sender: m9@mail.interlog.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 04:14:54 -0500
To: public@setileague.org
From: "Mike M." <m9@interlog.com>
Subject: SETI public: Electronic Sniffer To Track Down Alien Life
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk

http://www.howstuffworks.com/news-item93.htm

Electronic Sniffer To Track Down Alien Life
 
 
The next step that NASA plans to take in exploring the universe for
extraterrestrial beings will be an electronic sniffer that could be sent to
other planets to hunt down any signs of life. Carnegie Institution
scientist Marilyn Fogl is adapting a new protein-recognition instrument,
originally designed for finding signatures of life on Earth as part of her
work with NASA's Astrobiology Institute (NAI). 
The device's molecular-recognition technology was initially developed to
help scientists understand how life arose in ancient and extreme
environments on Earth, but it could be just as useful in the field of
astrobiology. Astrobiology is the study of the origin of life on earth to
determine if life could exist elsewhere in the universe. The device, called
the ProteinChip System , consists of tiny, thin strips of metal coated with
different chemically active molecules that can bind and hold on to
compounds of complex mixtures according to their different properties,
including specific proteins -- the building blocks of life. 

Since sending back samples from space is expensive and risky, scientists
are working to develop a self-contained laboratory that could be sent to
discover if life exists on Mars or Jupiter's moon, Europa. Once on one of
them, the lab would sniff out minute quantities of molecules, and remotely
weigh the samples' molecular mass and analyze them for evidence of life. 

The equipment is currently located at Carnegie's Geophysical Laboratory in
Washington, D.C. 
 


From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 05:09:50 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2D9m1J026765;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 05:09:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id HAA25101
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:59:58 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from smtp1.volja.net (smtp1.volja.net [217.72.64.59])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25096
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:59:55 -0500 (EST)
Received: from linux (unknown [217.72.95.193])
	by smtp1.volja.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3D3DBA1
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun,  2 Nov 2003 13:25:37 +0100 (CET)
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="iso-8859-1"
From: Marko Cebokli <s57uuu@hamradio.si>
Reply-To: s57uuu@hamradio.si
To: <public@setileague.org>
Subject: Re: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:40:13 +0100
User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3
References: <000301c3a0df$0b618f00$608d0242@davidmad>
In-Reply-To: <000301c3a0df$0b618f00$608d0242@davidmad>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <200311021340.13874.s57uuu@hamradio.si>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by seti1.setileague.org id HAA25098
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


> third country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.  The Moon
> is a thousand times as far away and requires life support for many days,
> not just minutes.

this would be a good description of Alan Shepherd's little hop in the 60's....

However the Chinese flight was a serious multi-orbit space trip.

Marko Cebokli

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 05:45:58 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2Djv1J021592;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 05:45:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id IAA25830
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:34:28 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from vadangyal.vnet.hu (mail.vnet.hu [213.163.59.4])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25826
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:34:26 -0500 (EST)
Received: from eik.bme.hu (adsl240119.vnet.hu [62.77.240.119])
 by mail.vnet.hu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 Patch 1 (built Jun  6 2002))
 with ESMTPA id <0HNQ0044B8D73H@mail.vnet.hu> for public@setileague.org; Sun,
 02 Nov 2003 14:34:20 +0100 (CET)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:37:18 +0100
From: zoltan galantai <zgalant@eik.bme.hu>
Subject: Re: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
In-reply-to: <200311021340.13874.s57uuu@hamradio.si>
Cc: public@setileague.org
Reply-to: zgalant@eik.bme.hu
Message-id: <3FA5088E.6020905@eik.bme.hu>
Organization: Dept. of Innovation Management and History of Technology,
 BUTE/Hungary
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030903
 Thunderbird/0.2
References: <000301c3a0df$0b618f00$608d0242@davidmad>
 <200311021340.13874.s57uuu@hamradio.si>
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk

dear David Madison,

Armstrong, descending from Eagle's ladder and touching one foot to the 
Moon's surface in 1969, said:

"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
(source: 
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/ap11ann/FirstLunarLanding/ch-1.html)

He didn't stated that it was a great leap for ONLY Americans, as he was 
a representative of our species there

sincerely yours

Zoltan Galantai
-- 

Zoltan Galantai PhD, associate professor
Budapest University of Technology and Economics
Faculty of Social Sciences
Department of Innovation Studies and History of Technology
H-1111 Hungary, Budapest, Stoczek u. 2., bg. St., gfloor 7.
tel: (+36) 1 463-2141, fax: (+36) 1 463-1412
http://www.inno.bme.hu/~zgalant/index.html



From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 07:02:57 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2F2k1J028137;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:02:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id JAA27246
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:47:37 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from smtp.enter.net (smtp.enter.net [216.193.128.24])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27242
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:47:35 -0500 (EST)
Received: from Blue (ironmax-5-45.dialup.enter.net [216.193.165.101])
	by smtp.enter.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54A22CCA71
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun,  2 Nov 2003 09:52:58 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <00b601c3a150$2e3114d0$1607fea9@Blue>
From: "Ronald C. Blue" <ronblue@enter.net>
To: <public@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Baboons Can Think Abstractly
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3A125.F8E27B40"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3A125.F8E27B40
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://mentalhealth.about.com/library/sci/1001/blbaboon1001.htm

Baboons Can Think Abstractly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This suggest that there are many pathways to developing an intelligent =
species.

Ron

------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3A125.F8E27B40
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://mentalhealth.about.com/library/sci/1001/blbaboon1001.htm">=
http://mentalhealth.about.com/library/sci/1001/blbaboon1001.htm</A><BR><B=
R>Baboons=20
Can Think Abstractly</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This suggest that there are many =
pathways to=20
developing an intelligent species.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3A125.F8E27B40--


From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 07:46:26 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2FkO1J023532;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:46:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA28139
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:28:20 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav158.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.188])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28135;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:28:18 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:27:47 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.84 by bay4-dav158.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:27:46 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.84]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Parkes Radio Observatory gets a $3 million boost for 2004 probe coverage
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:27:34 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0004_01C3A12B.EE1FE840"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV158Cbg8CQVT00019eae@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2003 15:27:47.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE496570:01C3A155]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C3A12B.EE1FE840
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7729156%5E15391%5E%5Enbv%=
5E,00.html

$3m helps dish up life on Mars
John Kerin
NOVEMBER 01, 2003 =20

IT'S rush hour near Mars and the radio telescope immortalised in the film=
 The Dish is again playing a starring role.

The frantic rush to gather information from seven probes either landing o=
n Mars or circling the red planet over the coming months has led NASA to =
pay for a $3 million upgrade of the dish at Parkes, in western NSW. =20
"If you were comparing what's happening near Mars now to a traffic proble=
m, it is about 5.15 pm in Sydney at the moment - it's rush hour," CSIRO o=
fficial Warren King said at the launch yesterday of the upgraded dish. =20
"The number of space probes that are coinciding around Mars in the next f=
ew months is quite phenomenal, from NASA, the Europeans and the Japanese.=
" =20
Among the spacecraft heading to Mars are the two robotic exploration rove=
rs Spirit and Opportunity, scheduled to land in January, Japan's Nozomi a=
nd the European Space Agency's Mars Express. =20
>From Monday, the CSIRO facility at Parkes will begin tracking craft near =
Mars for up to eight hours a day as part of the NASA program. =20
And, despite what was depicted in the 2000 Australian film The Dish, Tom =
Schieffer became the first US ambassador to visit the facility yesterday.=
 =20
Amid 110 km/h winds - 10 times stronger than it was built to withstand - =
the dish relayed television pictures of the July 21, 1969 moon landing to=
 600 million people. =20
The weather yesterday was uncannily like the violent squalls on that day.=
 =20
In a case of life imitating art, Mr Schieffer played cricket on the surfa=
ce of the 64m parabolic dish with the CSIRO officials and NASA's Australi=
an representative Neal Newman - re-enacting a scene from the movie. =20
The telescope was buffeted by driving rain and high winds of up to 70 km/=
h as Mr Schieffer and an entourage from NASA and CSIRO executives clamber=
ed up on to it. =20
Mr Schieffer said he first heard of "the dish" in April 2001 after US Pre=
sident George W. Bush asked him to be Australia's ambassador. =20
"I went back to Dallas that weekend and of all things that were playing t=
hat week at the theatre was The Dish. =20
"We went to see it and I knew this (being ambassador to Australia) was go=
ing to be a lot of fun," he said. =20

------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C3A12B.EE1FE840
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV><A href=3D"htt=
p://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7729156%5E15391%5E%5Enbv%5E,=
00.html">http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7729156%5E15391%=
5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html</A><BR><BR> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 wi=
dth=3D475 bgColor=3D#ffffff border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width=3D475> <P>=
<STRONG><FONT size=3D5><SPAN class=3Dblacknewsheader>$3m helps dish up li=
fe on Mars</SPAN></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT size=3D5><BR></FONT></STRO=
NG><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3Dblackbodytext>John Kerin</SPAN><BR><SPAN =
class=3Dgreydate><FONT color=3D#999999>NOVEMBER 01, 2003 </FONT></SPAN></=
FONT></P></TD></TR> <TR> <TD width=3D475 bgColor=3D#ffffff height=3D10><F=
ONT color=3D#999999><SPACER type=3D"block" width=3D"475" height=3D"10"><F=
ONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></TD></TR> <TR> <TD width=3D475><SPAN class=3D=
blackbodytext><FONT size=3D2>IT'S rush hour near Mars and the radio teles=
cope immortalised in the film The Dish is again playing a starring role.<=
BR><BR>The frantic rush to gather information from seven probes either la=
nding on Mars or circling the red planet over the coming months has led N=
ASA to pay for a $3 million upgrade of the dish at Parkes, in western NSW=
. </FONT> <P>"If you were comparing what's happening near Mars now to a t=
raffic problem, it is about 5.15 pm in Sydney at the moment - it's rush h=
our," CSIRO official Warren King said at the launch yesterday of the upgr=
aded dish.  <P>"The number of space probes that are coinciding around Mar=
s in the next few months is quite phenomenal, from NASA, the Europeans an=
d the Japanese."  <P>Among the spacecraft heading to Mars are the two rob=
otic exploration rovers Spirit and Opportunity, scheduled to land in Janu=
ary, Japan's Nozomi and the European Space Agency's Mars Express.  <P>Fro=
m Monday, the CSIRO facility at Parkes will begin tracking craft near Mar=
s for up to eight hours a day as part of the NASA program.  <P>And, despi=
te what was depicted in the 2000 Australian film The Dish, Tom Schieffer =
became the first US ambassador to visit the facility yesterday.  <P>Amid =
110 km/h winds - 10 times stronger than it was built to withstand - the d=
ish relayed television pictures of the July 21, 1969 moon landing to 600 =
million people.  <P>The weather yesterday was uncannily like the violent =
squalls on that day.  <P>In a case of life imitating art, Mr Schieffer pl=
ayed cricket on the surface of the 64m parabolic dish with the CSIRO offi=
cials and NASA's Australian representative Neal Newman - re-enacting a sc=
ene from the movie.  <P>The telescope was buffeted by driving rain and hi=
gh winds of up to 70 km/h as Mr Schieffer and an entourage from NASA and =
CSIRO executives clambered up on to it.  <P>Mr Schieffer said he first he=
ard of "the dish" in April 2001 after US President George W. Bush asked h=
im to be Australia's ambassador.  <P>"I went back to Dallas that weekend =
and of all things that were playing that week at the theatre was The Dish=
.  <P>"We went to see it and I knew this (being ambassador to Australia) =
was going to be a lot of fun," he said. </SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TA=
BLE></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C3A12B.EE1FE840--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 07:47:26 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2FlO1J026904;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:47:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA28306
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:36:02 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav64.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.94])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28293
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:35:56 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:35:25 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.84 by bay4-dav64.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:35:25 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.84]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "David Madison" <maddad@Maddad.org>, "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Subject: Re: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:35:12 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV64Oh8s4KWiG0000196e@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2003 15:35:25.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFBA28C0:01C3A156]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Germany had a lot to do with getting the USA on the Moon technologically,
and the USSR did geopolitically.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: David Madison
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 8:19 PM
To: public@setileague.org; Maddad@Maddad.org
Subject: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain

The SETI effort is commendable, especially for its pan-global cooperation=
.
Raise your Flag of Earth wherever SETI is the theme.  However, the landin=
g
on the Moon deserves the American flag because it is entirely an American
accomplishment.

If Sam Smith builds a house then it is appropriate for him to place a pla=
que
above the doorway saying, "Built by the Smiths".  Sam would laugh if Joe
Blow down the street says, "Wait a minute; you need to include the Blow
family name on that plaque as well because I live on this street too!"  J=
oe
spent none of his own money building the house, and he gave none of his o=
wn
sweat to the construction either.  The accomplishment is Sam's alone and =
it
is Sam's right alone to decide on the plaque for his home.

America put men on the Moon.  Not the Soviet Union, not China, not Japan,
not Germany, not France, and not any other country or even all other
countries combined.  We did.  At colossal expense and will, we did.

The very existence of 34 years with no other country having matched our f=
eat
gives eloquent testimony to its difficulty.  Only recently has the third
country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.  The Moon is a
thousand times as far away and requires life support for many days, not j=
ust
minutes.

Leave the PC police in their barracks and allow the Moon landing its
rightful place as America's accomplishment.  Let my American flag fly wit=
h
well earned pride.

------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Germany had a =
lot to do with getting the USA on the Moon technologically,</DIV> <DIV>an=
d the USSR did geopolitically.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Larry</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> David Madison</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturd=
ay, November 01, 2003 8:19 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To=
:</B> public@setileague.org; Maddad@Maddad.org</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: =
10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the pub=
lic domain</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>The SETI effort is commendable, especia=
lly for its pan-global cooperation.<BR>Raise your Flag of Earth wherever =
SETI is the theme.&nbsp; However, the landing<BR>on the Moon deserves the=
 American flag because it is entirely an American<BR>accomplishment.<BR><=
BR>If Sam Smith builds a house then it is appropriate for him to place a =
plaque<BR>above the doorway saying, "Built by the Smiths".&nbsp; Sam woul=
d laugh if Joe<BR>Blow down the street says, "Wait a minute; you need to =
include the Blow<BR>family name on that plaque as well because I live on =
this street too!"&nbsp; Joe<BR>spent none of his own money building the h=
ouse, and he gave none of his own<BR>sweat to the construction either.&nb=
sp; The accomplishment is Sam's alone and it<BR>is Sam's right alone to d=
ecide on the plaque for his home.<BR><BR>America put men on the Moon.&nbs=
p; Not the Soviet Union, not China, not Japan,<BR>not Germany, not France=
, and not any other country or even all other<BR>countries combined.&nbsp=
; We did.&nbsp; At colossal expense and will, we did.<BR><BR>The very exi=
stence of 34 years with no other country having matched our feat<BR>gives=
 eloquent testimony to its difficulty.&nbsp; Only recently has the third<=
BR>country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.&nbsp; The Mo=
on is a<BR>thousand times as far away and requires life support for many =
days, not just<BR>minutes.<BR><BR>Leave the PC police in their barracks a=
nd allow the Moon landing its<BR>rightful place as America's accomplishme=
nt.&nbsp; Let my American flag fly with<BR>well earned pride.<BR><BR></BL=
OCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 07:51:39 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2Fpb1J017330;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:51:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id KAA28218
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:33:05 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav44.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.74])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28214;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:33:03 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:32:27 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.84 by bay4-dav44.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:32:27 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.84]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>, "europa" <europa@klx.com>
Subject: SETI public: Fw: [NOVA] "The Elegant Universe" Episode Three
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:32:21 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C3A12C.98CC3AA0"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV44PGEoWriqO0000c3ca@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2003 15:32:27.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[85728480:01C3A156]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C3A12C.98CC3AA0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



----- Original Message -----
From: owner-nova-online@franz.wgbh.org
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:36 PM
To: nova-online@franz.wgbh.org
Subject: [NOVA] "The Elegant Universe" Episode Three

_____________________________________________________________________
NEXT ON NOVA: "The Elegant Universe: Welcome to the 11th Dimension"

http://www.pbs.org/nova/elegant

Broadcast: Tuesday, November 4, 2003, 8:00 P.M. on PBS

In "Welcome to the 11th Dimension," the third and final episode of
"The Elegant Universe," string theory is faced with an embarrassment
of riches. Five different string theories compete for the title
Theory of Everything. Find out how this conundrum is solved and what
it could mean for our understanding of the universe.

Here's what you'll find on the companion Web site:

Articles and Interviews

      A Theory of Everything?
      In this excerpt from his book The Elegant Universe, Brian
      Greene explains why string theory might hold the key to unifying
      the four forces of nature.

      A Conversation with Brian Greene
      The series host says we may not be smart enough to ever fully
      understand the universe, he'd like to know now if string theory
      is wrong, and more.

      Viewpoints on String Theory
      Leading physicists offer insights -- and sometimes conflicting
      opinions -- on the nature and meaning of string theory.

      Imagining Other Dimensions
      Our brains may not be equipped to picture ten spatial
      dimensions, but see if you can get to at least four here.

Interactives and Slide Shows

      The Making Of
      From the initial concept to the finished product, take a
      detailed look at the making of one scene from "The Elegant
      Universe."

      A Sense of Scale
      Starting at an everyday scale, travel by powers of 100 down into
      the infinitesimally itsy-bitsy world of strings.

      Resonance in Strings
      An everyday string and the tiny strings of string theory have a
      lot in common. It's all in the vibration.

      Multidimensional Math
      See for yourself why it's a walk in the park to dream up extra
      dimensions, at least for mathematicians.

      Elementary Particles
      How do you tell a muon from a gluon? A strange quark from a
      charm quark? Find out here.

      Smashing Pictures
      Explore images from atom smashers that have captured particles
      in the act of being created or destroyed.

Resources

      Watch the Program
      Missed the first two episodes in "The Elegant Universe"
      miniseries? View the entire three-part program online.

      NOVA News Minutes
      Watch news clips related to the program.

      Plus, a list of links and books, a teacher's guide, and the
      program transcript

http://www.pbs.org/nova/elegant

_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________

Thank you for visiting NOVA Online. We welcome your questions,
comments, and feedback. You can send a message directly to
nova@wgbh.org, or use our feedback form at
http://www.pbs.org/nova/feedback/

You are subscribed to the NOVA Online mailing list. To unsubscribe,
go to http://www.pbs.org/nova/mailing/unsubscribe.html -- or send an
e-mail to majordomo@franz.wgbh.org and, on a line by itself in the
message, type: unsubscribe nova-online

Major funding for NOVA is provided by the Park Foundation, Sprint,
and Microsoft.
_____________________________________________________________________
------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C3A12C.98CC3AA0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> owner-nova-online@franz.wgbh.org</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">=
<B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:36 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT=
: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> nova-online@franz.wgbh.org</DIV> <DIV style=3D"F=
ONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NOVA] "The Elegant Universe" Episode Th=
ree</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>______________________________________________=
_______________________<BR>NEXT ON NOVA: "The Elegant Universe: Welcome t=
o the 11th Dimension"<BR><BR>http://www.pbs.org/nova/elegant<BR><BR>Broad=
cast: Tuesday, November 4, 2003, 8:00 P.M. on PBS<BR><BR>In "Welcome to t=
he 11th Dimension," the third and final episode of<BR>"The Elegant Univer=
se," string theory is faced with an embarrassment<BR>of riches. Five diff=
erent string theories compete for the title<BR>Theory of Everything. Find=
 out how this conundrum is solved and what<BR>it could mean for our under=
standing of the universe.<BR><BR>Here's what you'll find on the companion=
 Web site:<BR><BR>Articles and Interviews<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; A Theory of Everything?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In this =
excerpt from his book The Elegant Universe, Brian<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Greene explains why string theory might hold the key to unifyi=
ng<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the four forces of nature.<BR><BR>&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A Conversation with Brian Greene<BR>&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The series host says we may not be smart enough to=
 ever fully<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; understand the universe, he=
'd like to know now if string theory<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is=
 wrong, and more.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Viewpoints on Str=
ing Theory<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Leading physicists offer ins=
ights -- and sometimes conflicting<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; opin=
ions -- on the nature and meaning of string theory.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Imagining Other Dimensions<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Our brains may not be equipped to picture ten spatial<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dimensions, but see if you can get to at least four h=
ere.<BR><BR>Interactives and Slide Shows<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; The Making Of<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From the initial co=
ncept to the finished product, take a<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; d=
etailed look at the making of one scene from "The Elegant<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Universe."<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A Sen=
se of Scale<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Starting at an everyday sca=
le, travel by powers of 100 down into<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; t=
he infinitesimally itsy-bitsy world of strings.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; Resonance in Strings<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; An ev=
eryday string and the tiny strings of string theory have a<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lot in common. It's all in the vibration.<BR><BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Multidimensional Math<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; See for yourself why it's a walk in the park to dream up extra<=
BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dimensions, at least for mathematicians=
.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Elementary Particles<BR>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How do you tell a muon from a gluon? A strange quar=
k from a<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charm quark? Find out here.<BR=
><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smashing Pictures<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Explore images from atom smashers that have captured parti=
cles<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the act of being created or des=
troyed.<BR><BR>Resources<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Watch the =
Program<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Missed the first two episodes i=
n "The Elegant Universe"<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; miniseries? Vi=
ew the entire three-part program online.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; NOVA News Minutes<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Watch news clip=
s related to the program.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plus, a l=
ist of links and books, a teacher's guide, and the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; program transcript<BR><BR>http://www.pbs.org/nova/elegant<BR>=
<BR>_____________________________________________________________________=
<BR>_____________________________________________________________________=
<BR><BR>Thank you for visiting NOVA Online. We welcome your questions,<BR=
>comments, and feedback. You can send a message directly to<BR>nova@wgbh.=
org, or use our feedback form at<BR>http://www.pbs.org/nova/feedback/<BR>=
<BR>You are subscribed to the NOVA Online mailing list. To unsubscribe,<B=
R>go to http://www.pbs.org/nova/mailing/unsubscribe.html -- or send an<BR=
>e-mail to majordomo@franz.wgbh.org and, on a line by itself in the<BR>me=
ssage, type: unsubscribe nova-online<BR><BR>Major funding for NOVA is pro=
vided by the Park Foundation, Sprint,<BR>and Microsoft.<BR>______________=
_______________________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><=
/BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C3A12C.98CC3AA0--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 09:07:16 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA2H7E1J018330;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:07:15 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id LAA29889
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:55:39 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f49.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.49])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29885
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:55:36 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 08:55:05 -0800
Received: from 66.2.141.47 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
	Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:55:05 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [66.2.141.47]
X-Originating-Email: [maddad@hotmail.com]
Reply-To: Maddad@Maddad.org
From: "David Madison" <maddad@hotmail.com>
To: public@setileague.org
Subject: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:55:05 +0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html
Message-ID: <BAY9-F495BBBVhyemYe00093204@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2003 16:55:05.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[10F38E90:01C3A162]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV></DIV>
<P>Zoltan Galantai</P>
<P>"Armstrong . . . didn't stated that it was a great leap for ONLY Americans, as he was a representative of our species there"<BR></P>
<P>I totally agree with you that all mankind, not just Americans, have and will continue to benefit from the spinoff of the Moon landings.&nbsp; However, this does not transform the responsibility for the accomplishment into one of all mankind.</P>
<P>If Sam Smith decides that the sidewalk on the street of his new home is old and crumbling, he could replace its entire length at his own expense and effort.&nbsp; While property values would increase for everyone on the block, the accomplishment still belongs to Sam.&nbsp; Joe Blow down the street still does not get to add his name to the plaque on Sam's house.</P>
<P><BR><BR><BR><BR>__________________________________ </P>
<DIV></DIV>David Madison 
<DIV></DIV>70 Moser Road, Apartment 10 
<DIV></DIV>Pottstown, Pennsylvania 19464 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>(610) 326-7962 
<DIV></DIV>ICQ Number 14746562 
<DIV></DIV>http://www.maddad.org 
<DIV></DIV>http://www.maddad.org/david02a.jpg 
<DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr> <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2749??PS=">Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today!  </a> </html>

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 17:43:26 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA31hO1J013711;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:43:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id UAA10218
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:31:32 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav98.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.128])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10214
	for <public@setileague.org>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:31:29 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:30:54 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.60 by bay4-dav98.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:30:54 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.60]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "David Madison" <maddad@Maddad.org>, "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Subject: Re: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:35:12 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV98Z4d5htAyD000002c5@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 01:30:54.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FB3DFA0:01C3A1AA]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Germany had a lot to do with getting the USA on the Moon technologically,
and the USSR did geopolitically.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: David Madison
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 8:19 PM
To: public@setileague.org; Maddad@Maddad.org
Subject: SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the public domain

The SETI effort is commendable, especially for its pan-global cooperation=
.
Raise your Flag of Earth wherever SETI is the theme.  However, the landin=
g
on the Moon deserves the American flag because it is entirely an American
accomplishment.

If Sam Smith builds a house then it is appropriate for him to place a pla=
que
above the doorway saying, "Built by the Smiths".  Sam would laugh if Joe
Blow down the street says, "Wait a minute; you need to include the Blow
family name on that plaque as well because I live on this street too!"  J=
oe
spent none of his own money building the house, and he gave none of his o=
wn
sweat to the construction either.  The accomplishment is Sam's alone and =
it
is Sam's right alone to decide on the plaque for his home.

America put men on the Moon.  Not the Soviet Union, not China, not Japan,
not Germany, not France, and not any other country or even all other
countries combined.  We did.  At colossal expense and will, we did.

The very existence of 34 years with no other country having matched our f=
eat
gives eloquent testimony to its difficulty.  Only recently has the third
country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.  The Moon is a
thousand times as far away and requires life support for many days, not j=
ust
minutes.

Leave the PC police in their barracks and allow the Moon landing its
rightful place as America's accomplishment.  Let my American flag fly wit=
h
well earned pride.

------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Germany had a =
lot to do with getting the USA on the Moon technologically,</DIV> <DIV>an=
d the USSR did geopolitically.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Larry</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> David Madison</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturd=
ay, November 01, 2003 8:19 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To=
:</B> public@setileague.org; Maddad@Maddad.org</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: =
10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> SETI public: The Flag of Earth now in the pub=
lic domain</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>The SETI effort is commendable, especia=
lly for its pan-global cooperation.<BR>Raise your Flag of Earth wherever =
SETI is the theme.&nbsp; However, the landing<BR>on the Moon deserves the=
 American flag because it is entirely an American<BR>accomplishment.<BR><=
BR>If Sam Smith builds a house then it is appropriate for him to place a =
plaque<BR>above the doorway saying, "Built by the Smiths".&nbsp; Sam woul=
d laugh if Joe<BR>Blow down the street says, "Wait a minute; you need to =
include the Blow<BR>family name on that plaque as well because I live on =
this street too!"&nbsp; Joe<BR>spent none of his own money building the h=
ouse, and he gave none of his own<BR>sweat to the construction either.&nb=
sp; The accomplishment is Sam's alone and it<BR>is Sam's right alone to d=
ecide on the plaque for his home.<BR><BR>America put men on the Moon.&nbs=
p; Not the Soviet Union, not China, not Japan,<BR>not Germany, not France=
, and not any other country or even all other<BR>countries combined.&nbsp=
; We did.&nbsp; At colossal expense and will, we did.<BR><BR>The very exi=
stence of 34 years with no other country having matched our feat<BR>gives=
 eloquent testimony to its difficulty.&nbsp; Only recently has the third<=
BR>country ever, China, momentarily reached low Earth orbit.&nbsp; The Mo=
on is a<BR>thousand times as far away and requires life support for many =
days, not just<BR>minutes.<BR><BR>Leave the PC police in their barracks a=
nd allow the Moon landing its<BR>rightful place as America's accomplishme=
nt.&nbsp; Let my American flag fly with<BR>well earned pride.<BR><BR></BL=
OCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C3A12C.FEF3A840--

From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Nov  2 17:48:42 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA31mf1J007117;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:48:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id UAA10413
	for public-list; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:40:26 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav118.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.148])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10409;
	Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:40:24 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:39:52 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.60 by bay4-dav118.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:39:52 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.60]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Open Letter to the HST-JWST Transition Panel on Optical SETI
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:39:45 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0003_01C3A181.7392CEC0"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV118gY0074D10001a4b1@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 01:39:52.0989 (UTC) FILETIME=[60AC4CD0:01C3A1AB]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C3A181.7392CEC0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Open Letter to the HST-JWST Transition Panel
Concerning Space-Based Optical SETI
On July 31, 2003, the Transition Panel for the Hubble Space Telescope/Jam=
es Webb Space Telescope issued a report on the scientific impact of the c=
urrent NASA plan for ending HST operations and beginning JWST operations.=
  The panel requested further comments from the scientific community.  =20
The open letter that follows concerns the retrofit of the HST for Optical=
 SETI (OSETI) and the design of the JWST to incorporate the capability of=
 undertaking OSETI.
To see why it is important to have space-based Optical SETI observatories=
 one only has to consider the spectral window presented by Earth's atmosp=
here.  The atmospheric transmission chart presented here covers the appro=
ximate wavelength range of the James-Webb Space Telescope.  Not shown is =
the ultra-violet band between 0.3 microns and 0.1 microns which is blocke=
d by Earth's atmosphere but is available to the Hubble Space Telescope.  =
These two telescopes together provide a complementary means to access a s=
ubstantial and contiguous range of optical frequencies.
On a more philosophical note, it is distressing to read that NASA has giv=
en up on the idea of eventually bringing the HST back to Earth for displa=
y in the Smithsonian or parking it in a higher orbit for safety, but woul=
d rather send it crashing back to Earth in a controlled re-entry at the e=
nd of this decade.  This is pure vandalism.  It is rather like suggesting=
 that if the original Santa Maria was on display in a museum in Spain and=
 while towing it to the New World for display here it accidentally sank, =
we would make no attempt to retrieve it.  =20
Our descendants would not think much of this generation if we did not lea=
ve them the legacy of the Hubble Space Telescope to marvel at.  Even if w=
e were not ready for the HST to undertake OSETI in this decade, by parkin=
g it safely in a higher orbit, we would ensure its availability later bot=
h for OSETI and its eventual display in the Smithsonian, after the Space =
Shuttle is replaced by a more reliable space vehicle.  =20
If you agree to the importance for the HST and JWST to be equipped to und=
ertake OSETI observations, please contact Professor Bahcall and/or the NA=
SA Administrator, Dr. Sean O'Keefe at NASA Headquarters.  In particular, =
you are encouraged to contact NASA about this matter, whether you are a s=
cientist, engineer, a concerned member of the public, or just a citizen o=
f Planet Earth.  2010 should not mark the end of the HST but a new beginn=
ing.

http://www.coseti.org/hst-jwst.htm

------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C3A181.7392CEC0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV> <P align=3Dce=
nter><B><FONT size=3D6>Open Letter to the HST-JWST Transition Panel<BR>Co=
ncerning Space-Based Optical SETI</FONT></B></P></DIV> <DIV> <P align=3Dj=
ustify>On July 31, 2003, the Transition Panel for the Hubble Space Telesc=
ope/James Webb Space Telescope issued a report on the scientific impact o=
f the current NASA plan for ending HST operations and beginning JWST oper=
ations.&nbsp; The panel requested further comments from the scientific co=
mmunity.&nbsp; </P> <P align=3Djustify>The open letter that follows conce=
rn<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red">s</SPAN> the retrofit of the HST for <A styl=
e=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single" hre=
f=3D"http://www.coseti.org/9301-001.htm">Optical SETI</A> (OSETI) and the=
 design of the JWST to incorporate the capability of undertaking OSETI.</=
P> <P align=3Djustify>To see why it is important to have space-based Opti=
cal SETI observatories one only has to consider the spectral window prese=
nted by <SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red">E</SPAN>arth's atmosphere.&nbsp; The a=
tmospheric transmission chart presented <A style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DEC=
ORATION: underline; text-underline: single" href=3D"http://www.coseti.org=
/atmosphe.htm">here</A> covers the approximate wavelength range of the Ja=
mes-Webb Space Telescope.&nbsp; Not shown is the ultra-violet band betwee=
n 0.3 microns and 0.1 microns which is blocked by Earth's atmosphere but =
is available to the Hubble Space Telescope.&nbsp; These two telescopes to=
gether provide a complementary means to access a substantial and contiguo=
us range of optical frequencies.</P> <P align=3Djustify>On a more philoso=
phical note, it is distressing to read that NASA has given up on the idea=
 of eventually bringing the HST back to Earth for display in the Smithson=
ian or parking it in a higher orbit for safety, but would rather send it =
crashing back to Earth in a controlled re-entry at the end of this decade=
.&nbsp; This is pure vandalism.&nbsp; It is rather like suggesting that i=
f the original <I>Santa Maria</I> was on display in a museum in Spain and=
 while towing it to the New World for display here it accidentally sank, =
we would make no attempt to retrieve it.&nbsp; </P> <P align=3Djustify>Ou=
r descendants would not think much of this generation if we did not leave=
 them the legacy of the Hubble Space Telescope to marvel at.&nbsp; Even i=
f we were not ready for the HST to undertake OSETI in this decade, by par=
king it safely in a higher orbit, we would ensure its availability later =
both for OSETI and its eventual display in the Smithsonian, after the Spa=
ce Shuttle is replaced by a more reliable space vehicle.&nbsp; </P> <P al=
ign=3Djustify>If you agree to the importance for the HST and JWST to be e=
quipped to undertake OSETI observations, please contact Professor Bahcall=
 and/or the NASA Administrator, Dr. Sean O'Keefe at NASA Headquarters.&nb=
sp; In particular, you are encouraged to contact NASA about this matter, =
whether you are a scientist, engineer, a concerned member of the public, =
or just a citizen of Planet Earth.&nbsp; 2010 should not mark the end of =
the HST but a new beginning.</P></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><A href=3D"=
http://www.coseti.org/hst-jwst.htm">http://www.coseti.org/hst-jwst.htm</A=
><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C3A181.7392CEC0--

From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov  3 13:46:35 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3LkX1J011891;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id QAA03982
	for public-list; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:36:47 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav12.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.170.116])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03978;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:36:45 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:36:10 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.12 by bay4-dav12.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:36:10 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.12]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Fw: Here Comes the Sun
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:35:55 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000D_01C3A228.8DCF7200"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV12FYUq1DIhv0000db76@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 21:36:10.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F7DBA70:01C3A252]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_000D_01C3A228.8DCF7200
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



----- Original Message -----
From: SpaceWeather.com
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:24 PM
To: SpaceWeather.com
Subject: Here Comes the Sun

Space Weather News for Nov. 2, 2003
http://spaceweather.com

Another remarkable solar flare has erupted from giant sunspot 486--an
X8-class blast at 1725 UT on Nov. 2nd. Because the sunspot is nearing the
sun's western limb, this explosion was not aimed squarely at Earth. Even
so, a coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading our way. Auroras could appear
on Nov. 3rd or 4th when the fast-moving cloud delivers a glancing blow to
Earth's magnetic field. Visit spaceweather.com for more information and
images.
------=_NextPart_001_000D_01C3A228.8DCF7200
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> SpaceWeather.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sun=
day, November 02, 2003 7:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>T=
o:</B> SpaceWeather.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:=
</B> Here Comes the Sun</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Space Weather News for Nov=
. 2, 2003<BR>http://spaceweather.com<BR><BR>Another remarkable solar flar=
e has erupted from giant sunspot 486--an<BR>X8-class blast at 1725 UT on =
Nov. 2nd. Because the sunspot is nearing the<BR>sun's western limb, this =
explosion was not aimed squarely at Earth. Even<BR>so, a coronal mass eje=
ction (CME) is heading our way. Auroras could appear<BR>on Nov. 3rd or 4t=
h when the fast-moving cloud delivers a glancing blow to<BR>Earth's magne=
tic field. Visit spaceweather.com for more information and<BR>images.<BR>=
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_000D_01C3A228.8DCF7200--

From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov  3 13:47:26 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3LlO1J032113;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:47:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id QAA03942
	for public-list; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:36:08 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav140.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.170])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03938;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:36:06 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:34:44 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.12 by bay4-dav140.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:34:44 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.12]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Fw: AstroAlert: A Pair of Strong X-Class Solar Flares
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:34:27 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000C_01C3A228.58EFADC0"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV140IIZS2TRq000000d5@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 21:34:44.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C6AEE00:01C3A252]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C3A228.58EFADC0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



----- Original Message -----
From: Cary Oler
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:04 AM
To: sun-earth@SkyandTelescope.com
Subject: AstroAlert: A Pair of Strong X-Class Solar Flares

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
This Is SKY & TELESCOPE's AstroAlert for Sun-Earth Interactions
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                            A s t r o  A l e r t
                               Sun-Earth Alert

                          Solar Terrestrial Dispatch
                            http://www.spacew.com

                               03 November 2003

A PAIR OF STRONG X-CLASS SOLAR FLARES

     The sunspot complex known as Region 488, located just to the north o=
f
the power-house Region 486 that was responsible for the X17 and X10 flare=
s
last week, has joined the parade by producing its first major solar flare=
: a
class X2.7 solar x-ray event at 01:29 UTC on 03 November (8:29 pm EST on
02 November).

     This was preceded about eight hours earlier by an even more powerful
solar flare from neighboring Region 486. That event reached a class X8.3
x-ray intensity at 17:25 UTC on 02 November and blasted the Earth with an
additional dose of high-energy protons at 17:35 UTC (only 10 minutes afte=
r
x-rays reached their maximum intensity)!

     The X8.3 solar flare from Region 486 has been confirmed as a halo
coronal mass ejection (perhaps a borderline partial halo event). This mea=
ns
that mass ejected from the region contains an Earthward-directed componen=
t.
That component is expected to impact the Earth on 03 or 04 November, but =
with
heaviest emphasis on the early UTC hours of 04 November. For North Americ=
an
observers, this translates to the evening (probably late evening) hours o=
n
MONDAY NIGHT, Eastern Standard Time.

     A middle latitude auroral activity WATCH has been issued for the 03 =
to
06 November time-frame with heaviest empahsis on 04 November. It is appen=
ded
below.

     Although this event has the potential to be perhaps as strong as the
Great Storm of 29 and 30 October, we do not believe it will. Nevertheless=
,
the chance for periods of significant auroral activity exists for 03 thro=
ugh
06 November (again, with emphasis on 04 November).

     This will probably be the last geoeffective disturbance the Earth wi=
ll
observe from sunspot complex 486 before it rotates behind the western lim=
b of
the Sun and out of range.


                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                    MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH

                  WATCH ISSUED: 02:00 UTC, 03 NOVEMBER 2003

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

             ** THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY EXISTS **

VALID BEGINNING AT: 12:00 UTC ON 03 NOVEMBER
VALID UNTIL: 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) ON 06 NOVEMBER

PREDICTED IMPACT TIME OF DISTURBANCE:
     APPROX. 07:00 UTC ON 04 NOVEMBER, +/- AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS

HIGH RISK PERIOD: 04 - 05 NOVEMBER (UTC DAYS)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 03 - 06 NOVEMBER

PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 20, 70, 30, 15 (03 NOVEMBER  - 06 NOVEMBER)

POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH

POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT =3D 12 TO 18 HOURS
                                    MINOR BELT =3D 18 TO 36 HOURS

ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR AND AFTER LOCAL MIDNIGHT

EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: MODERATE

OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO GOOD

AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...

   OREGON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO NORTHERN UTAH TO NORTHERN COLORADO TO NEBR=
ASKA
   TO IOWA TO ILLINOIS TO SOUTHERN INDIANA TO NORTHERN KENTUCKY TO VIRGIN=
IA
   TO MARYLAND.

ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...

   FRANCE TO SOUTHERN GERMANY TO CZECH REPUBLIC TO POLAND TO BELARUS TO
   CENTRAL RUSSIA.

   NEW ZEALAND AND EXTREME SOUTHERN (PARTICULARLY SOUTHEASTERN) REGIONS O=
F
   AUSTRALIA MAY ALSO OBSERVE PERIODS OF ACTIVITY.

SYNOPSIS...

     TWO major X-class solar flares within the last 24 hours have been
observed. The first, a class X8.37 x-ray flare occurred at 17:15 UTC on 0=
2
November and was associated with a full halo coronal mass ejection. The
second major X-class flare is in-progress at the time of this writing
(peak was at a class X2.72 x-ray level at 01:29 UTC on 03 November). This
event is assumed to be associated with a similar coronal mass ejection ha=
ving
an Earthward-directed component.

     Activity is expected to intensify early in the UTC day of 04 Novembe=
r
(perhaps near 07:00 UTC give or take several hours). Note that there is a
discrepancy between Solar Terrestrial Dispatch's (STD) prediction and the
Space Environment Center (SEC). SEC is expecting an impact "near mid-day =
on
day one" which is near 12:00 UTC on 03 November. If SEC is correct, the
disturbance will arrive near dawn over North America TONIGHT and will
probably produce a significant disturbance at the Earth. If STD is correc=
t,
the disturbance won't arrive until near midnight over North America on MO=
NDAY
NIGHT and will be of lesser magnitude than the events of 29-30 October. I=
n
any event, there is a good chance for periods of minor to severe auroral
storm activity after the disturbance arrives.

     This watch will remain valid through 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) on
06 November. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. It may also be
upgraded to a warning after the disturbance impacts. For updated
information, visit: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html. For real-tim=
e
plots of current activity, visit: http://www.spacew.com/plots.html or
www.sec.noaa.gov.

              PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO:
                 http://www.spacew.com/submitsighting.html


**  End of the AstroAlert Bulletin  **
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
AstroAlert is a free service of SKY & TELESCOPE, the Essential
Magazine of Astronomy (http://SkyandTelescope.com/). This e-mail
was sent to AstroAlert subscribers. If you feel you received it
in error, or to unsubscribe from AstroAlert, please send a plain-
text e-mail to majordomo@SkyandTelescope.com with the following
line -- and nothing else -- in the body of the message:
unsubscribe sun-earth e-mail@address.com
replacing "e-mail@address.com" with your actual e-mail address.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C3A228.58EFADC0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> Cary Oler</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, No=
vember 03, 2003 1:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> =
sun-earth@SkyandTelescope.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Su=
bject:</B> AstroAlert: A Pair of Strong X-Class Solar Flares</DIV> <DIV>&=
nbsp;</DIV>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>This Is SKY =
&amp; TELESCOPE's AstroAlert for Sun-Earth Interactions<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A s t r o&nbsp; A =
l e r t<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sun-Earth Alert<BR><BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 Solar Terrestrial Dispatch<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.spacew.com<BR>=
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 03 November 2003<BR><BR>A PAIR OF =
STRONG X-CLASS SOLAR FLARES<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The sunspot c=
omplex known as Region 488, located just to the north of<BR>the power-hou=
se Region 486 that was responsible for the X17 and X10 flares<BR>last wee=
k, has joined the parade by producing its first major solar flare: a<BR>c=
lass X2.7 solar x-ray event at 01:29 UTC on 03 November (8:29 pm EST on<B=
R>02 November).<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This was preceded about e=
ight hours earlier by an even more powerful<BR>solar flare from neighbori=
ng Region 486. That event reached a class X8.3<BR>x-ray intensity at 17:2=
5 UTC on 02 November and blasted the Earth with an<BR>additional dose of =
high-energy protons at 17:35 UTC (only 10 minutes after<BR>x-rays reached=
 their maximum intensity)!<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The X8.3 solar=
 flare from Region 486 has been confirmed as a halo<BR>coronal mass eject=
ion (perhaps a borderline partial halo event). This means<BR>that mass ej=
ected from the region contains an Earthward-directed component.<BR>That c=
omponent is expected to impact the Earth on 03 or 04 November, but with<B=
R>heaviest emphasis on the early UTC hours of 04 November. For North Amer=
ican<BR>observers, this translates to the evening (probably late evening)=
 hours on<BR>MONDAY NIGHT, Eastern Standard Time.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; A middle latitude auroral activity WATCH has been issued for the=
 03 to<BR>06 November time-frame with heaviest empahsis on 04 November. I=
t is appended<BR>below.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Although this eve=
nt has the potential to be perhaps as strong as the<BR>Great Storm of 29 =
and 30 October, we do not believe it will. Nevertheless,<BR>the chance fo=
r periods of significant auroral activity exists for 03 through<BR>06 Nov=
ember (again, with emphasis on 04 November).<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; This will probably be the last geoeffective disturbance the Earth wil=
l<BR>observe from sunspot complex 486 before it rotates behind the wester=
n limb of<BR>the Sun and out of range.<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /\/\/=
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WATCH ISSUED: 02:00 UTC, 03 NOVEMBER 2003<BR><BR>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\<BR><BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ** T=
HE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY EXISTS **<BR><BR>VALID BEGINNING AT=
: 12:00 UTC ON 03 NOVEMBER<BR>VALID UNTIL: 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) ON 06 NOV=
EMBER<BR><BR>PREDICTED IMPACT TIME OF DISTURBANCE:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; APPROX. 07:00 UTC ON 04 NOVEMBER, +/- AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS<BR><BR=
>HIGH RISK PERIOD: 04 - 05 NOVEMBER (UTC DAYS)<BR>MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 0=
3 - 06 NOVEMBER<BR><BR>PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 20, 70, 30, 15 (03 NOV=
EMBER&nbsp; - 06 NOVEMBER)<BR><BR>POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE =
AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH<BR><BR>POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTI=
VITY: MAIN BELT =3D 12 TO 18 HOURS<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MINOR BELT =3D 18 TO 36 HOURS<BR><BR>ESTIMA=
TED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR AND AFTER LOCAL MIDNIGHT<BR><BR>EX=
PECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: MODERATE<BR><BR>OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERV=
ATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO GOOD<BR><BR>AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* =
BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; ORE=
GON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO NORTHERN UTAH TO NORTHERN COLORADO TO NEBRASKA<B=
R>&nbsp;&nbsp; TO IOWA TO ILLINOIS TO SOUTHERN INDIANA TO NORTHERN KENTUC=
KY TO VIRGINIA<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; TO MARYLAND.<BR><BR>ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE=
 OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; FRANC=
E TO SOUTHERN GERMANY TO CZECH REPUBLIC TO POLAND TO BELARUS TO<BR>&nbsp;=
&nbsp; CENTRAL RUSSIA.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; NEW ZEALAND AND EXTREME SOUTHE=
RN (PARTICULARLY SOUTHEASTERN) REGIONS OF<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; AUSTRALIA MAY A=
LSO OBSERVE PERIODS OF ACTIVITY.<BR><BR>SYNOPSIS...<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; TWO major X-class solar flares within the last 24 hours have b=
een<BR>observed. The first, a class X8.37 x-ray flare occurred at 17:15 U=
TC on 02<BR>November and was associated with a full halo coronal mass eje=
ction. The<BR>second major X-class flare is in-progress at the time of th=
is writing<BR>(peak was at a class X2.72 x-ray level at 01:29 UTC on 03 N=
ovember). This<BR>event is assumed to be associated with a similar corona=
l mass ejection having<BR>an Earthward-directed component.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Activity is expected to intensify early in the UTC day =
of 04 November<BR>(perhaps near 07:00 UTC give or take several hours). No=
te that there is a<BR>discrepancy between Solar Terrestrial Dispatch's (S=
TD) prediction and the<BR>Space Environment Center (SEC). SEC is expectin=
g an impact "near mid-day on<BR>day one" which is near 12:00 UTC on 03 No=
vember. If SEC is correct, the<BR>disturbance will arrive near dawn over =
North America TONIGHT and will<BR>probably produce a significant disturba=
nce at the Earth. If STD is correct,<BR>the disturbance won't arrive unti=
l near midnight over North America on MONDAY<BR>NIGHT and will be of less=
er magnitude than the events of 29-30 October. In<BR>any event, there is =
a good chance for periods of minor to severe auroral<BR>storm activity af=
ter the disturbance arrives.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This watch w=
ill remain valid through 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) on<BR>06 November. It will =
then be updated or allowed to expire. It may also be<BR>upgraded to a war=
ning after the disturbance impacts. For updated<BR>information, visit: ht=
tp://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html. For real-time<BR>plots of current =
activity, visit: http://www.spacew.com/plots.html or<BR>www.sec.noaa.gov.=
<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO:<BR>&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.spacew.com/submitsighting.html<BR><BR><BR>*=
*&nbsp; End of the AstroAlert Bulletin&nbsp; **<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>AstroAlert is a free service of SKY &amp; TEL=
ESCOPE, the Essential<BR>Magazine of Astronomy (http://SkyandTelescope.co=
m/). This e-mail<BR>was sent to AstroAlert subscribers. If you feel you r=
eceived it<BR>in error, or to unsubscribe from AstroAlert, please send a =
plain-<BR>text e-mail to majordomo@SkyandTelescope.com with the following=
<BR>line -- and nothing else -- in the body of the message:<BR>unsubscrib=
e sun-earth e-mail@address.com<BR>replacing "e-mail@address.com" with you=
r actual e-mail address.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_000C_01C3A228.58EFADC0--

From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov  3 13:55:31 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3LtS1J025045;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:55:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id QAA03842
	for public-list; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:31:23 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav119.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.149])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03838;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:31:20 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:30:49 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.12 by bay4-dav119.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:30:49 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.12]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Fw: AstroAlert: News from VSNET
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:30:38 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0009_01C3A227.D08CAB90"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV11943BR04Ox0000d9c4@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 21:30:49.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[C037A9F0:01C3A251]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C3A227.D08CAB90
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



----- Original Message -----
From: Makoto Uemura
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:45 PM
To: AstroAlert
Cc: vsnet-adm@ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Subject: AstroAlert: News from VSNET

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
This Is SKY & TELESCOPE's AstroAlert for Variable Stars
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

                       ***  News from VSNET  ***

Z Cam shows a clear indication of damping oscillations.

  For more detail information about these objects, =20
see below, "VSNET Weekly Campaign Summary" of the last week.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--

  VSNET (Variable Star Network) is an international variable star observi=
ng
network, covering various areas of novae, supernovae, cataclysmic variabl=
es
(CVs), X-ray transients, and other classical eruptive, pulsating, and
eclipsing variables.  VSNET is one of invited contributing organizations
to the SkyPub AstroAlert system.

  The "News from VSNET", mainly focusing on recent remarkable activities =
of
CVs and related systems, is issued on a weekly basis, except on occasions
of extremely urgent or transient events.

  Please refer to the VSNET Home Page for more details of events and
objects listed.

       VSNET Home Page: http://www.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/vsnet/

  VSNET provides a number of mailing lists, on which various news and top=
ics
are discussed.  Subscriptions to the VSNET mailing lists are free of char=
ge;
please refer to the instruction on the above page if a reader needs more
information of the list structure.

  CCD observations of such targets are a relatively easy task for a 20-40=
cm
telescope; simply take as many CCD frames (with exposure times 10-30 sec)
as possible, spanning several hours per night.  The only requirements are
the weather and your patience!  If you need more help on the observing
technique, please feel free to ask on the vsnet-campaign list.

   We would sincerely appreciate volunteers who would join the VSNET
Collaboration team to study the wonders of these exotic variable stars.
To join the VSNET campaign collaborative list, send an e-mail to

         vsnet-adm@kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp (VSNET administrator)

with a line "SUBSCRIBE vsnet-campaign."
(VSNET campaign members are strongly recommended to subscribe to vsnet-al=
ert
at the same time).

Regards,
Taichi Kato
On behalf of the VSNET administrator team

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---

The following was issued on November 3, 2003, as VSNET campaign
circulation 1420
[Note a large part of detailed information is posted to vsnet-campaign
sub-lists].

VSNET Weekly Campaign Summary

*** Last week news ***

(new targets)  =20
  SN 2003jf             (RA =3D 17h53m33s.45, Dec =3D +64d10'12".1)

    SN 2003jf is hosted by MCG +11-22-9, a spiral galaxy.  =20
  The expected maximum for typical SN Ia is mag about 17.5
  (vsnet-campaign-sn 718).  The UCB team revealed that it is a young
  type II SN (vsnet-campaign-sn 720).


  V823 Cyg              (RA =3D 20h01m49s.28, Dec =3D +36d07'24".2)

    An outburst of 15.1mag was reported by D. Taylor on October 27
  (vsnet-campaign-dn 4024).  M. Uemura reported it was fainter than
  17mag on October 29 (vsnet-campaign-dn 4026).


  SN 2003jg             (RA =3D 09h45m37s.91, Dec =3D -31d11'21".0)

    SN 2003jg is hosted by NGC 2997, a nearby spiral galaxy.  It is
  superimposed on the central region.  The expected maximum for
  typical unreddened SN Ia is mag about 12.8, though it is probably
  highly absorbed or/and (intrinsically subluminous) core-collapse
  event (vsnet-campaign-sn 721).


  SN 2003jh             (RA =3D 04h16m37s.30, Dec =3D -12d23'32".9) =20

    SN 2003jh is hosted by MCG -02-11-30, a barred-spiral galaxy.  =20
  The expected maximum for typical SN Ia is mag about 17.2
  (vsnet-campaign-sn 722).


(continuous targets)
  V5113 Sgr             (RA =3D 18h10m10s.42, Dec =3D -27d45'35".2)

    D. West estimated: t(outburst) =3D 15 Sep 2003; t(max V mag) =3D 18
  Sep 03, V=3D8.8; t2 (day reached V=3D10.8) =3D 24 Oct 2003, using
  observations reported to VSNET and AAVSO (vsnet-campaign-nova 1550).


  Z Cam                 (RA =3D 08h25m13s.2, Dec =3D +73d06'39")

    Z Cam at present shows a clear indication of damping
  oscillations.  This feature was also seen when the object entered a
  standstill in 2001 (vsnet-campaign-dn 4025, 4027).


  SN 2002jd             (RA =3D 23h21m03s.38, Dec =3D -04d53'45".5)

    The CfA team has revealed that SN 2003jd is a peculiar type Ic SN,
  resembling SN 1998bw near maximum (though not identical)
  (vsnet-campaign-sn 719).


  SN 2002je             (RA =3D 08h49m22s.24, Dec =3D +36d42'56".6 )

    The UCB team revealed that it is a type II (probably IIn) SN
  (vsnet-campaign-sn 720).


  MX0656-072            (RA =3D 06h58m26s.9, Dec =3D -07d15'47")

    T. Kato reported that the suggested counterpart of MX0656-072
  (ATEL #202) at 065817.23 -071234.8 (2000.0) is rather highly
  variable in the ASAS-3 public light curve.  The object varies
  between 11.4 and 12.1 (V).  The object is not particularly bright at
  recent times (vsnet-campaign-xray 277).


  V475 Sct              (RA =3D 18h49m37s.60, Dec =3D -09d33'50".85)

    D. West proposed a distance of 2.03 +/- 0.19 kpc of this nova
  using its t2 and some proposed method to calculate the extinction
  (vsnet-campaign-nova 1558).  D. Starkey reported that the Ha peak
  was much diminished in the spectrum taken on Oct. 31.  Also, the O-I
  peaks at 6300 and 6363 angstroms were much increased
  (vsnet-campaign-nova 1559, 1560, 1561).  The object has shown hints =20
  of oscillations (vsnet-campaign-nova 1549, 1551, 1552, 1553, 1554,
  1555).


*** Future schedule ***

  The 5th Microquasar Workshop
    June 7 to June 13, 2004, at Tsinghua University, Beijing, China
    http://jet.uah.edu/microquasar
                                        [vsnet-campaign-xray 276]
  Call for Proposals =20
       for Cycle 1 of the Swift Guest Investigator Program =20
    Notices of Intent due: October 6, 2003
    Proposal due date:     December 1, 2003
                                        [vsnet-campaign-grb 39]
  ASTRONOMICAL POLARIMETRY
  CURRENT STATUS AND FUTURE DIRECTIONS
    15-19 March 2004, Waikoloa Beach Marriott, Waikoloa, Hawaii
    http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/JACpublic/JAC/pol2004
                                        [vsnet-campaign-polar 35]
  IAU Symposium No. 222 - BHSIGN Conference
    The Interplay among Black Holes, Stars and ISM in Galactic Nuclei
    March 1-5, 2004, Gramado, Brasil
    http://bhsign.if.ufrgs.br/
                                        [vsnet-campaign-agn 5]
  WEBT campaign on AO 0235+16
    Campaign with VLBA and XMM-Newton conducted by Claudia M. Raiteri
    from September 2003 to January-February 2004
    see [vsnet-campaign-blazar 301, 305, 313]

  X-RAY AND RADIO CONNECTIONS
    Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
    3 - 6 February 2004
    http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/events/xraydio/
                                        [vsnet-campaign-xray 258]
  X-Ray Timing 2003: Rossi and Beyond
    November 3-5, 2003
    Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
    http://hea-www.harvard.edu/xrt2003/
                                        [vsnet-campaign-xray 242]
  AR UMa and AM Her campaign with the HST
    TOO program conducted by S. Saar and F. Ringwald
    see [vsnet-campaign-polar 24]

  QS Tel: Call for observations
    TOO program with the Chandra conducted by C. Mauche =20
    until the end of 2004
    see [vsnet-campaign-polar 28]

  Multiwavelength AGN Surveys
    a "Guillermo Haro" Astrophysics Conference
    organized by INAOE
    December 8-12, 2003
    Cozumel, Mexico
    http://www.inaoep.mx/~agn2003/
                                         [vsnet-campaign-agn 4]

  Conference: THE INTERPLAY AMONG BLACK HOLES, STARS AND ISM IN
  GALACTIC NUCLEI
    in Gramado, south of Brasil, March 1-5, 2004
    for more information, please contact to BHSIGN@if.ufrgs.br
                                         [vsnet-campaign-agn 3]
  eta Car: The next "shell event"/X-ray eclipse
    M. Corcoran reported the event will occur this summer.  =20
    Coordinated ground-based observations of eta car along with the
    X-ray observations would be really important.
    For more information:
      Latest X-ray light curve:
      http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/users/corcoran/eta_car/etacar_rxte_lig=
htcurve/
                                        [vsnet-campaign-sdor 23, 24,
                                         25, 26, 28, 29, 46]
                                        [vsnet-campaign-xray 172]
      Light curve provided by S. Otero:
      http://ar.geocities.com/varsao/Curva_Eta_Carinae.htm
                                        [vsnet-campaign-sdor 22, 32, 33]


*** General information ***

  V475 Sct
    New deeper chart made by S. Otero:
      http://ar.geocities.com/varsao/Carta_V475_Sct_tel2.htm
                                        [vsnet-campaign-nova 1556]
    New sequence Compiled by Bjorn H. Granslo, see
      [vsnet-campaign-nova 1557]
    Spectrum on Oct. 31 taken by D. Starkey:
      http://www.starkey.ws/FTP%20Page/V475%20Sct%20Spectra%20Oct%2031%20=
2003%20UT.jpg
                                        [vsnet-campaign-nova 1559]


(This summary can be cited.) =20

Regards,
Makoto Uemura
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
AstroAlert is a free service of SKY & TELESCOPE, the Essential
Magazine of Astronomy (http://SkyandTelescope.com/). This e-mail
was sent to AstroAlert subscribers. If you feel you received it
in error, or to unsubscribe from AstroAlert, please send a plain-
text e-mail to majordomo@SkyandTelescope.com with the following
line -- and nothing else -- in the body of the message:
unsubscribe variable-star e-mail@address.com
replacing "e-mail@address.com" with your actual e-mail address.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C3A227.D08CAB90
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> Makoto Uemura</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday=
, November 03, 2003 1:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:<=
/B> AstroAlert</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Cc:</B> vsnet-adm=
@ooruri.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>S=
ubject:</B> AstroAlert: News from VSNET</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>This Is SKY &amp; TELESCOPE's Ast=
roAlert for Variable Stars<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; **=
*&nbsp; News from VSNET&nbsp; ***<BR><BR>Z Cam shows a clear indication o=
f damping oscillations.<BR><BR>&nbsp; For more detail information about t=
hese objects, <BR>see below, "VSNET Weekly Campaign Summary" of the last =
week.<BR><BR>------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------<BR><BR>&nbsp; VSNET (Variable Star Network) is an interna=
tional variable star observing<BR>network, covering various areas of nova=
e, supernovae, cataclysmic variables<BR>(CVs), X-ray transients, and othe=
r classical eruptive, pulsating, and<BR>eclipsing variables.&nbsp; VSNET =
is one of invited contributing organizations<BR>to the SkyPub AstroAlert =
system.<BR><BR>&nbsp; The "News from VSNET", mainly focusing on recent re=
markable activities of<BR>CVs and related systems, is issued on a weekly =
basis, except on occasions<BR>of extremely urgent or transient events.<BR=
><BR>&nbsp; Please refer to the VSNET Home Page for more details of event=
s and<BR>objects listed.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VSNE=
T Home Page: http://www.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/vsnet/<BR><BR>&nbsp; VSNET=
 provides a number of mailing lists, on which various news and topics<BR>=
are discussed.&nbsp; Subscriptions to the VSNET mailing lists are free of=
 charge;<BR>please refer to the instruction on the above page if a reader=
 needs more<BR>information of the list structure.<BR><BR>&nbsp; CCD obser=
vations of such targets are a relatively easy task for a 20-40cm<BR>teles=
cope; simply take as many CCD frames (with exposure times 10-30 sec)<BR>a=
s possible, spanning several hours per night.&nbsp; The only requirements=
 are<BR>the weather and your patience!&nbsp; If you need more help on the=
 observing<BR>technique, please feel free to ask on the vsnet-campaign li=
st.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; We would sincerely appreciate volunteers who woul=
d join the VSNET<BR>Collaboration team to study the wonders of these exot=
ic variable stars.<BR>To join the VSNET campaign collaborative list, send=
 an e-mail to<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; vsn=
et-adm@kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp (VSNET administrator)<BR><BR>with a line "S=
UBSCRIBE vsnet-campaign."<BR>(VSNET campaign members are strongly recomme=
nded to subscribe to vsnet-alert<BR>at the same time).<BR><BR>Regards,<BR=
>Taichi Kato<BR>On behalf of the VSNET administrator team<BR><BR>--------=
--------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><=
BR>The following was issued on November 3, 2003, as VSNET campaign<BR>cir=
culation 1420<BR>[Note a large part of detailed information is posted to =
vsnet-campaign<BR>sub-lists].<BR><BR>VSNET Weekly Campaign Summary<BR><BR=
>*** Last week news ***<BR><BR>(new targets)&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; SN 2003jf&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (R=
A =3D 17h53m33s.45, Dec =3D +64d10'12".1)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SN 20=
03jf is hosted by MCG +11-22-9, a spiral galaxy.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; The exp=
ected maximum for typical SN Ia is mag about 17.5<BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-campai=
gn-sn 718).&nbsp; The UCB team revealed that it is a young<BR>&nbsp; type=
 II SN (vsnet-campaign-sn 720).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; V823 Cyg&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 2=
0h01m49s.28, Dec =3D +36d07'24".2)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; An outburst =
of 15.1mag was reported by D. Taylor on October 27<BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-campa=
ign-dn 4024).&nbsp; M. Uemura reported it was fainter than<BR>&nbsp; 17ma=
g on October 29 (vsnet-campaign-dn 4026).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; SN 2003jg&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =
=3D 09h45m37s.91, Dec =3D -31d11'21".0)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SN 2003=
jg is hosted by NGC 2997, a nearby spiral galaxy.&nbsp; It is<BR>&nbsp; s=
uperimposed on the central region.&nbsp; The expected maximum for<BR>&nbs=
p; typical unreddened SN Ia is mag about 12.8, though it is probably<BR>&=
nbsp; highly absorbed or/and (intrinsically subluminous) core-collapse<BR=
>&nbsp; event (vsnet-campaign-sn 721).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; SN 2003jh&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D=
 04h16m37s.30, Dec =3D -12d23'32".9) <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SN 2003jh=
 is hosted by MCG -02-11-30, a barred-spiral galaxy.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; The=
 expected maximum for typical SN Ia is mag about 17.2<BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-ca=
mpaign-sn 722).<BR><BR><BR>(continuous targets)<BR>&nbsp; V5113 Sgr&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D=
 18h10m10s.42, Dec =3D -27d45'35".2)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; D. West es=
timated: t(outburst) =3D 15 Sep 2003; t(max V mag) =3D 18<BR>&nbsp; Sep 0=
3, V=3D8.8; t2 (day reached V=3D10.8) =3D 24 Oct 2003, using<BR>&nbsp; ob=
servations reported to VSNET and AAVSO (vsnet-campaign-nova 1550).<BR><BR=
><BR>&nbsp; Z Cam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 08h25m13s.2, Dec =3D +73=
d06'39")<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Z Cam at present shows a clear indicat=
ion of damping<BR>&nbsp; oscillations.&nbsp; This feature was also seen w=
hen the object entered a<BR>&nbsp; standstill in 2001 (vsnet-campaign-dn =
4025, 4027).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; SN 2002jd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 23h21m03s.38, Dec =3D -04=
d53'45".5)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The CfA team has revealed that SN 20=
03jd is a peculiar type Ic SN,<BR>&nbsp; resembling SN 1998bw near maximu=
m (though not identical)<BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-campaign-sn 719).<BR><BR><BR>&n=
bsp; SN 2002je&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 08h49m22s.24, Dec =3D +36d42'56".6 )<BR><BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; The UCB team revealed that it is a type II (probably IIn) SN<=
BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-campaign-sn 720).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; MX0656-072&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 06h58m26=
s.9, Dec =3D -07d15'47")<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; T. Kato reported that =
the suggested counterpart of MX0656-072<BR>&nbsp; (ATEL #202) at 065817.2=
3 -071234.8 (2000.0) is rather highly<BR>&nbsp; variable in the ASAS-3 pu=
blic light curve.&nbsp; The object varies<BR>&nbsp; between 11.4 and 12.1=
 (V).&nbsp; The object is not particularly bright at<BR>&nbsp; recent tim=
es (vsnet-campaign-xray 277).<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; V475 Sct&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (RA =3D 18h=
49m37s.60, Dec =3D -09d33'50".85)<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; D. West propo=
sed a distance of 2.03 +/- 0.19 kpc of this nova<BR>&nbsp; using its t2 a=
nd some proposed method to calculate the extinction<BR>&nbsp; (vsnet-camp=
aign-nova 1558).&nbsp; D. Starkey reported that the Ha peak<BR>&nbsp; was=
 much diminished in the spectrum taken on Oct. 31.&nbsp; Also, the O-I<BR=
>&nbsp; peaks at 6300 and 6363 angstroms were much increased<BR>&nbsp; (v=
snet-campaign-nova 1559, 1560, 1561).&nbsp; The object has shown hints <B=
R>&nbsp; of oscillations (vsnet-campaign-nova 1549, 1551, 1552, 1553, 155=
4,<BR>&nbsp; 1555).<BR><BR><BR>*** Future schedule ***<BR><BR>&nbsp; The =
5th Microquasar Workshop<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; June 7 to June 13, 2004, a=
t Tsinghua University, Beijing, China<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://jet.ua=
h.edu/microquasar<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-xray 276]<BR>&nbsp; =
Call for Proposals <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for Cycle 1 o=
f the Swift Guest Investigator Program <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Notices of =
Intent due: October 6, 2003<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Proposal due date:&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; December 1, 2003<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-g=
rb 39]<BR>&nbsp; ASTRONOMICAL POLARIMETRY<BR>&nbsp; CURRENT STATUS AND FU=
TURE DIRECTIONS<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15-19 March 2004, Waikoloa Beach Ma=
rriott, Waikoloa, Hawaii<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.jach.hawaii.edu=
/JACpublic/JAC/pol2004<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-polar 35]<BR>&n=
bsp; IAU Symposium No. 222 - BHSIGN Conference<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Interplay among Black Holes, Stars and ISM in Galactic Nuclei<BR>&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; March 1-5, 2004, Gramado, Brasil<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://=
bhsign.if.ufrgs.br/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-agn 5]<BR>&nbsp; W=
EBT campaign on AO 0235+16<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Campaign with VLBA and X=
MM-Newton conducted by Claudia M. Raiteri<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; from Sept=
ember 2003 to January-February 2004<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; see [vsnet-camp=
aign-blazar 301, 305, 313]<BR><BR>&nbsp; X-RAY AND RADIO CONNECTIONS<BR>&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 - 6 F=
ebruary 2004<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/events/xraydio=
/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-xray 258]<BR>&nbsp; X-Ray Timing 200=
3: Rossi and Beyond<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; November 3-5, 2003<BR>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; http://hea-www.harvard.edu/xrt2003/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign=
-xray 242]<BR>&nbsp; AR UMa and AM Her campaign with the HST<BR>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; TOO program conducted by S. Saar and F. Ringwald<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; see [vsnet-campaign-polar 24]<BR><BR>&nbsp; QS Tel: Call for obse=
rvations<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TOO program with the Chandra conducted by =
C. Mauche <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; until the end of 2004<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; see [vsnet-campaign-polar 28]<BR><BR>&nbsp; Multiwavelength AGN Surve=
ys<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a "Guillermo Haro" Astrophysics Conference<BR>&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; organized by INAOE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; December 8-12, =
2003<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cozumel, Mexico<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://w=
ww.inaoep.mx/~agn2003/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-agn 4]<BR=
><BR>&nbsp; Conference: THE INTERPLAY AMONG BLACK HOLES, STARS AND ISM IN=
<BR>&nbsp; GALACTIC NUCLEI<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in Gramado, south of Bra=
sil, March 1-5, 2004<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for more information, please c=
ontact to BHSIGN@if.ufrgs.br<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-agn=
 3]<BR>&nbsp; eta Car: The next "shell event"/X-ray eclipse<BR>&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; M. Corcoran reported the event will occur this summer.&nbsp; <BR=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Coordinated ground-based observations of eta car alon=
g with the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X-ray observations would be really impor=
tant.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For more information:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Latest X-ray light curve:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ht=
tp://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/users/corcoran/eta_car/etacar_rxte_lightcurve/=
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-sdor 23, 24,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 25, 26, 28, 29, 46]<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-xray 172]<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Light curve provided by S. Otero:<BR>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://ar.geocities.com/varsao/Curva_Eta_Carinae.ht=
m<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-sdor 22, 32, 33]<BR><BR><BR>*** Gene=
ral information ***<BR><BR>&nbsp; V475 Sct<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; New deep=
er chart made by S. Otero:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://ar.ge=
ocities.com/varsao/Carta_V475_Sct_tel2.htm<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-camp=
aign-nova 1556]<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; New sequence Compiled by Bjorn H. G=
ranslo, see<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-nova 1557]<=
BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spectrum on Oct. 31 taken by D. Starkey:<BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; http://www.starkey.ws/FTP%20Page/V475%20Sct%20Spe=
ctra%20Oct%2031%202003%20UT.jpg<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [vsnet-campaign-nova 1=
559]<BR><BR><BR>(This summary can be cited.) <BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Makoto U=
emura<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>AstroAlert i=
s a free service of SKY &amp; TELESCOPE, the Essential<BR>Magazine of Ast=
ronomy (http://SkyandTelescope.com/). This e-mail<BR>was sent to AstroAle=
rt subscribers. If you feel you received it<BR>in error, or to unsubscrib=
e from AstroAlert, please send a plain-<BR>text e-mail to majordomo@Skyan=
dTelescope.com with the following<BR>line -- and nothing else -- in the b=
ody of the message:<BR>unsubscribe variable-star e-mail@address.com<BR>re=
placing "e-mail@address.com" with your actual e-mail address.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C3A227.D08CAB90--

From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov  3 14:19:22 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3MJK1J002609;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:19:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id RAA04771
	for public-list; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:07:44 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav123.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.153])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04767;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:07:42 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:07:11 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.12 by bay4-dav123.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:07:11 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.12]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Fw:  ...Gurnett Captures Sound of Solar Storm
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:07:04 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0015_01C3A22C.E7949140"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV123GNZ4mF1I000001e8@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 22:07:11.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4A2EBC0:01C3A256]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C3A22C.E7949140
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Ashcraft
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:27 AM
To: INTERNET:europa@klx.com
Subject: RE: ...Gurnett Captures Sound of Solar Storm




If you're interested in solar flares and sound, I captured the largest
flare on record, the X22 of April 2, 2001 sonically.  
A  50 MHz excerpt. can be accessed at           
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/X17/  

Also, if anyone is interested in jovian sound files in stereo check out  
http://www.heliotown.com/Radio_Astronomy_Homepage.html
Headphones strongly recommended.

Thomas Ashcraft





at Message text written by INTERNET:europa@klx.com
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Cassini Project
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:28 PM
To: ljk4@msn.com
Subject: University of Iowa's Don Gurnett Captures Sound of Solar Storm

News Services
University of Iowa
Iowa City, Iowa

CONTACTS:
Gary Galluzzo, 319-384-0009, gary-galluzzo@uiowa.edu

Oct. 30, 2003

UI's Don Gurnett Captures Sound Of Solar Storm<


==
You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list:   europa@klx.com
Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/
------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C3A22C.E7949140
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> Thomas Ashcraft</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Mond=
ay, November 03, 2003 8:27 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To=
:</B> INTERNET:europa@klx.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Su=
bject:</B> RE: ...Gurnett Captures Sound of Solar Storm</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;=
</DIV><BR><BR><BR>If you're interested in solar flares and sound, I captu=
red the largest<BR>flare on record, the X22 of April 2, 2001 sonically.&n=
bsp; <BR>A&nbsp; 50 MHz excerpt. can be accessed at&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov=
/hotshots/X17/&nbsp; <BR><BR>Also, if anyone is interested in jovian soun=
d files in stereo check out&nbsp; <BR>http://www.heliotown.com/Radio_Astr=
onomy_Homepage.html<BR>Headphones strongly recommended.<BR><BR>Thomas Ash=
craft<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>at Message text written by INTERNET:europa@k=
lx.com<BR>&gt;<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Cassini Project<B=
R>Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:28 PM<BR>To: ljk4@msn.com<BR>Subject=
: University of Iowa's Don Gurnett Captures Sound of Solar Storm<BR><BR>N=
ews Services<BR>University of Iowa<BR>Iowa City, Iowa<BR><BR>CONTACTS:<BR=
>Gary Galluzzo, 319-384-0009, gary-galluzzo@uiowa.edu<BR><BR>Oct. 30, 200=
3<BR><BR>UI's Don Gurnett Captures Sound Of Solar Storm&lt;<BR><BR><BR>=3D=
=3D<BR>You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list:&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 europa@klx.com<BR>Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http:=
//klx.com/europa/<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C3A22C.E7949140--

From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Nov  3 14:44:09 2003
Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10])
	by Sentry.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA3Mi71J032750;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:44:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) id RAA05102
	for public-list; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:21:36 -0500 (EST)
X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f
Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav124.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.154])
	by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05098;
	Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:21:33 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
	 Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:02 -0800
Received: from 65.149.176.12 by bay4-dav124.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV;
	Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:21:02 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [65.149.176.12]
X-Originating-Email: [ljk4@msn.com]
From: "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4@msn.com>
To: "setipublic" <public@setileague.org>
Cc: "BioAstro" <bioastro@setileague.org>
Subject: SETI public: Fw: People Are Robots, Too. Almost
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:51 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0019_01C3A22E.D4CF0C00"
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV124U028EGcA0001b775@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2003 22:21:02.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3F10440:01C3A258]
Sender: owner-public@setileague.org
Precedence: bulk


------=_NextPart_001_0019_01C3A22E.D4CF0C00
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



----- Original Message -----
From: NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:15 PM
To: ljk4@msn.com
Subject: People Are Robots, Too. Almost

Spotlight Feature                                                     
          October 28, 2003

People Are Robots, Too. Almost

Popular culture has long pondered the question, "If it looks like a
human, walks like a human and talks like a human, is it human?" So far
the answer has been no. Robots can't cry, bleed or feel like humans,
and that's part of what makes them different. But what if they could
think like humans?

Biologically inspired robots aren't just an ongoing fascination in
movies and comic books; they are being realized by engineers and
scientists all over the world. While much emphasis is placed on
developing physical characteristics for robots, like functioning
human-like faces or artificial muscles, engineers in the Telerobotics
Research and Applications Group at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
Pasadena, Calif., are among those working to program robots with forms
of artificial intelligence similar to human thinking processes.

Why Would They Want to Do That?

"The way robots function now, if something goes wrong, humans modify
their programming code and reload everything, then hope it eventually
works," said JPL robotics engineer Barry Werger. "What we hope to do
eventually is get robots to be more independent and learn to adjust
their own programming."

Scientists and engineers take several approaches to control robots.
The two extreme ends of the spectrum are called "deliberative control"
and "reactive control." The former is the traditional, dominant way in
which robots function, by painstakingly constructing maps and other
types of models that they use to plan sequences of action with
mathematical precision. The robot performs these sequences like a
blindfolded pirate looking for buried treasure; from point A, move 36
paces north, then 12 paces east, then 4 paces northeast to point X;
thar be the gold. 

The downside to this is that if anything interrupts the robot's
progress (for example, if the map is wrong or lacks detail), the robot
must stop, make a new map and a new plan of actions. This re-planning
process can become costly if repeated over time. Also, to ensure the
robot's safety, back-up programs must be in place to abort the plan if
the robot encounters an unforeseen rock or hole that may hinder its
journey.

"Reactive" approaches, on the other hand, get rid of maps and planning
altogether and focus on live observation of the environment. Slow down
if there's a rock ahead. Dig if you see a big X on the ground.

The JPL Telerobotics Research and Applications Group, led by technical
group supervisor Dr. Homayoun Seraji, focuses on "behavior-based
control," which lies toward the "reactive" end of the spectrum.
Behavior-based control allows robots to follow a plan while staying
aware of the unexpected, changing features of their environment. Turn
right when you see a red rock, go all the way down the hill and dig
right next to the palm tree; thar be the gold. 

Behavior-based control allows the robot a great deal of flexibility to
adapt the plan to its environment as it goes, much as a human does.
This presents a number of advantages in space exploration, including
alleviating the communication delay that results from operating
distant rovers from Earth.

How Do They Do It?

Seraji's group at JPL focuses on two of the many approaches to
implementing behavior-based control: fuzzy logic and neural networks.
The main difference between the two systems is that robots using fuzzy
logic perform with a set knowledge that doesn't improve; whereas,
robots with neural networks start out with no knowledge and learn over
time.

Fuzzy Logic

"Fuzzy logic rules are a way of expressing actions as a human would,
with linguistic instead of mathematical commands; for example, when
one person says to another person, 'It's hot in here,' the other
person knows to either open the window or turn up the air
conditioning. That person wasn't told to open the window, but he or
she knew a rule such as 'when it is hot, do something to stay cool,'"
said Seraji, a leading expert in robotic control systems who was
recently recognized as the most published author in the Journal of
Robotic Systems' 20-year history.

By incorporating fuzzy logic into their engineering technology, robots
can function in a humanistic way and respond to visual or audible
signals, or in the case of the above example, turn on the air
conditioning when it thinks the room is hot.

Neural Networks

Neural networks are tools that allow robots to learn from their
experiences, associate perceptions with actions and adapt to
unforeseen situations or environments.

"The concepts of 'interesting' and 'rocky' are ambiguous in nature,
but can be learned using neural networks," said JPL robotics research
engineer Dr. Ayanna Howard, who specializes in artificial intelligence
and creates intelligent technology for space applications. "We can
train a robot to know that if it encounters rocky surfaces, then the
terrain is hazardous. Or if the rocky surface has interesting
features, then it may have great scientific value."

Neural networks mimic the human brain in that they simulate a large
network of simple elements, similar to brain cells, that learn through
being presented with examples. A robot functioning with such a system
learns somewhat like a baby or a child does, only at a slower rate.

"We can easily tell a robot that a square is an equilateral object
with four sides, but how do we describe a cat?" Werger said. "With
neural networks, we can show the robot many examples of cats, and it
will later be able to recognize cats in general."

Similarly, a neural network can 'learn' to classify terrain if a
geologist shows it images of many types of terrain and associates a
label with each one. When the network later sees an image of a terrain
it hasn't seen before, it can determine whether the terrain is
hazardous or safe based on its lessons.

Robotics for Today and Tomorrow

With continuous advances in robotic methods like behavior-based
control, future space missions might be able to function without
relying heavily on human commands. On the home front, similar
technology is already used in many practical applications such as
digital cameras, computer programs, dishwashers, washing machines and
some car engines. The post office even uses neural networks to read
handwriting and sort mail.

"Does this mean robots in the near future will think like humans? No,"
Werger said. "But by mimicking human techniques, they could become
easier to communicate with, more independent, and ultimately more
efficient."

JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in
Pasadena, Calif.

Media Contact: Charli Schuler (818) 393-5467
------=_NextPart_001_0019_01C3A22E.D4CF0C00
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV =
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B=
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B=
>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2003 5:15 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10=
pt Arial"><B>To:</B> ljk4@msn.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><=
B>Subject:</B> People Are Robots, Too. Almost</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Spot=
light Feature&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n