From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Feb 1 02:38:27 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g11AcLc07248; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id FAA18172 for public-list; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 05:28:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18168 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 05:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from host217-35-18-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.35.18.144]) by protactinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16WavU-0005B1-00 for public@setileague.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:28:12 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:28:14 +0000 Subject: Re: SETI public: Simulated ET Message From: Richard Burke-Ward To: Public SETI List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3C59BAFA.35DCCD34@hamradio.si> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk > For a cyclic repeating code the total number of bits would be easy > to find out? I mean you will HAVE to know the bit time to decode it > and the period will be obvious too? Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking. I suppose using the product of two primes might hint that the message contains two elements - and that might eventually lead ET to the idea of a 2-d array... I wonder. Yvan - why are primes are discredited, then?! Richard From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Feb 1 07:28:36 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g11FSZc25933; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA01908 for public-list; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:18:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe139.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.132]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01898 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:18:04 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.24.65.201] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: How about Optical ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Message Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:17:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0015_01C1AB09.B49C1DB0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2002 15:18:04.0185 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4EE5890:01C1AB33] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C1AB09.B49C1DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We should also take into account the ETI using *optical* means of ASETI. Images can be included when sending a message via lasers, plus the star that the signal might come from would briefly appear to "flare up" immensely. If the idea is that an ETI wants to get our attention and send a message that is easy for us to understand, I would say that Optical ASETI has a lot going for it. See this Web site for details: http://www.coseti.org/ Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Burke-Ward Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:35 AM To: Public SETI List Subject: Re: SETI public: Simulated ET Message > For a cyclic repeating code the total number of bits would be easy > to find out? I mean you will HAVE to know the bit time to decode it > and the period will be obvious too? Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking. I suppose using the product of two primes might hint that the message contains two elements - and that might eventually lead ET to the idea of a 2-d array... I wonder. Yvan - why are primes are discredited, then?! Richard ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C1AB09.B49C1DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We should also= take into account the ETI using *optical*
means of ASETI.&nbs= p; Images can be included when sending a
message via las= ers, plus the star that the signal might
come from would brie= fly appear to "flare up" immensely. 
 
<= DIV>If the idea is that an ETI wants to get our attention
and = send a message that is easy for us to understand,
I would say= that Optical ASETI has a lot going for it.
 
= See this Web site for details: 
 
<= DIV>http://www.coseti.org/ <= DIV> 
Larry
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Burke-Ward=
Sent: Friday, February 01, = 2002 5:35 AM
To: Public SETI= List
Subject: Re: SETI publ= ic: Simulated ET Message
 
> For a cyclic repeati= ng code the total number of bits would be easy
> to find out? I mea= n you will HAVE to know the bit time to decode it
> and the period = will be obvious too?

Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking.

= I suppose using the product of two primes might hint that the message
= contains two elements - and that might eventually lead ET to the idea of = a
2-d array... I wonder.

Yvan - why are primes are discredited,= then?!

Richard

------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C1AB09.B49C1DB0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Feb 2 13:43:01 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g12Lh0c02887; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id QAA26101 for public-list; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:35:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26097 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.93.221.114]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20020202213459.MMDE18463.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:34:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5C5BB5.A1220DD8@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 16:35:49 -0500 From: Yvan Dutil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: setipublic Subject: Re: SETI public: How about Optical ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Message References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by seti1.setileague.org id QAA26098 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Actually, this year transmission will use a laser, Unfortunately, it caracteristics made it not very suitable for ASETI application. First, we cannot point it! This is really anoying since we cant target a star which is already a difficult take due to the narrow beam of laser. This narrowness increase to gain of the sytem at the expense of a reduction of chance of serendipous detection. Indeed, no matter our performant is your detection technology you still need to be in the beam to detect it. Yvan Dutil LARRY KLAES a écrit : > We should also take into account the ETI using *optical*means of > ASETI. Images can be included when sending amessage via lasers, plus > the star that the signal mightcome from would briefly appear to "flare > up" immensely. If the idea is that an ETI wants to get our > attentionand send a message that is easy for us to understand,I would > say that Optical ASETI has a lot going for it. See this Web site for > details: > From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Feb 2 20:10:08 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g134A6c01702; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id WAA13766 for public-list; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 22:57:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe152.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.145]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13757 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 22:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:57:07 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.24.65.4] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "Yvan Dutil" , "setipublic" Cc: "Dr. Stuart A. Kingsley" Subject: Re: SETI public: How about Optical ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Message Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:03:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1AC0B.9304AF20" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2002 03:57:07.0638 (UTC) FILETIME=[D95B8560:01C1AC66] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1AC0B.9304AF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow - can you go into details on the laser system being used for the transmission? How powerful is it? If you can't point it accurately, why are you using it? Presumably for a civilization more advanced than ours, aiming a communications laser at another star system would not be the problem it is for us at present, so in theory Optical ASETI should work for them. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Yvan Dutil Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:45 PM To: setipublic Subject: Re: SETI public: How about Optical ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Messa= ge Actually, this year transmission will use a laser, Unfortunately, it caracteristics made it not very suitable for ASETI application. First, we cannot point it! This is really anoying since we cant target a star which is already a difficult take due to the narrow beam of laser. This narrowness increase to gain of the sytem at the expense of a reduction of chance of serendipous detection. Indeed, no matter our performant is your detection technology you still need to be in the beam to detect it. Yvan Dutil LARRY KLAES a =E9crit : > We should also take into account the ETI using *optical*means of > ASETI. Images can be included when sending amessage via lasers, plus > the star that the signal mightcome from would briefly appear to "flare > up" immensely. If the idea is that an ETI wants to get our > attentionand send a message that is easy for us to understand,I would > say that Optical ASETI has a lot going for it. See this Web site for > details: > ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1AC0B.9304AF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow - can you = go into details on the laser system
being used for the transmi= ssion?  How powerful is it?
If you can't point it accurat= ely, why are you using it?
 
Presumably for a = civilization more advanced than ours,
aiming a communications = laser at another star system
would not be the problem it is fo= r us at present, so in
theory Optical ASETI should work for th= em.
 
Larry
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Yvan Dutil
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:45 PM<= /DIV>
To: setipublic
Subject: Re: SETI public: How about Optic= al ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Message
 
Actually, this = year transmission will use a laser, Unfortunately, it
caracteristicsmade it not very suitable for ASETI application. First, we cannot point=
it!
This is really anoying since we cant target a star which is al= ready a
difficult
take due to the narrow beam of laser. This narrow= ness increase to gain
of
the sytem at the expense of a reduction of= chance of serendipous
detection.
Indeed, no matter our performant = is your detection technology you still
need to be in the beam to detec= t it.

Yvan Dutil

LARRY KLAES a =E9crit :

> We sho= uld also take into account the ETI using *optical*means of
> ASETI.=   Images can be included when sending amessage via lasers, plus
&= gt; the star that the signal mightcome from would briefly appear to "flar= e
> up" immensely. If the idea is that an ETI wants to get our
&= gt; attentionand send a message that is easy for us to understand,I would=
> say that Optical ASETI has a lot going for it. See this Web site= for
> details:
>

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1AC0B.9304AF20-- From owner-public@setileague.org Sun Feb 3 20:18:29 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g144ISc25957; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 20:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id XAA21264 for public-list; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:09:51 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from post2.fast.net (post2.fast.net [209.92.1.22]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21260 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from winsrv (maxtnt04-220.phlpa.fast.net [209.92.96.220]) by post2.fast.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id g1449jH19761 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:09:45 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Carl R. Stevenson" To: "SETI league Public List \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: Newcomer to the list Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:09:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c1ad31$ca3b4810$0701a8c0@winsrv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm a newcomer to the list, though I've been a member of the SETI League for a while. I'm a licensed amateur (Extra Class), WA6VSE, and an RF engineer with a bit over 32 years of experience. I have a very good 12 acre hilltop location SW of Allentown, PA and I'm looking for sources of cheap or "free for the taking" dishes. I see that the League has stopped formally coordinating the "haves" and the "wants." (I guess I should have started looking sooner. Any leads would be appreciated. I have the space for multiple dishes. Regards, Carl R. Stevenson - wa6vse ------------------------------------------------------ NCI-1052 Executive Director, No Code International Fellow, The Radio Club of America Senior Member, IEEE Member, TAPR Member, ARRL Member, The SETI League ------------------------------------------------------ Join No Code International! Hams for the 21st Century. Help assure the survival and prosperity of ham radio. From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Feb 4 05:50:16 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g14DoFc00280; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id IAA17720 for public-list; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:37:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17702; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:37:20 -0500 (EST) From: n6tx@setileague.org Received: from user-38lded7.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.185.167] helo=Inbox) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16XjJ6-00063v-00; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 05:37:18 -0800 Reply-To: To: Cc: , , Subject: RE: SETI public: Newcomer to the list Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ----Original Message----- >From: "Carl R. Stevenson" >I see that the League has stopped formally coordinating >the "haves" and the "wants." (I guess I should have >started looking sooner. We're victims of our own success, Carl. With 1300 of you, and just two of us (Heather in the office, and me mostly on the road), we just couldn't handle all the coordination tasks. Fortunately, we have electronic means for member-to-member contact. You might wish to post this request to the Argus list, as that is where our most technically involved members hang out. Welcome to the Public list; I look forward to learning of your progress with your antenna farm! 73, Paul N6TX From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Feb 4 10:01:45 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g14I1ic04769; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id MAA29434 for public-list; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:51:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe91.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.233]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29430 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:51:13 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.38.205.106] From: "Lee Kitchens" To: , "Public" Subject: Re: SETI public: Newcomer to the list Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:51:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1AD69.E3A383C0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2002 17:51:13.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[896F5060:01C1ADA4] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1AD69.E3A383C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carl, although I'm in Arizona now, I once visited a plant in Allentown= and somewhat remember that your surrounding area is fairly rural (a good= source of dishes). There are 3 ways to get a dish(s): 1. Buy from a cat= alog I have (expensive); 2.Buy from your local satellite TV shop and you = could get a 9-foot dish for about $200; 3.Beat the Bushes. This is the = way most of us found a dish, and generally the cost is nothing. The owne= r is usually happy just to have someone take it away. You can usually fi= nd 12-foot dishes at farm houses, out-of-business sports bars, etc. Let = me know how it goes for you. Happy hunting, Lee, Hardware Committee. =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl R. Stevenson Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 9:20 PM To: SETI league Public List (E-mail) Subject: SETI public: Newcomer to the list =20 Hi, I'm a newcomer to the list, though I've been a member of the SETI League for a while. I'm a licensed amateur (Extra Class), WA6VSE, and an RF engineer with a bit over 32 years of experience. I have a very good 12 acre hilltop location SW of Allentown, PA and I'm looking for sources of cheap or "free for the taking" dishes. I see that the League has stopped formally coordinating the "haves" and the "wants." (I guess I should have started looking sooner. Any leads would be appreciated. I have the space for multiple dishes. Regards, Carl R. Stevenson - wa6vse ------------------------------------------------------ NCI-1052 Executive Director, No Code International Fellow, The Radio Club of America Senior Member, IEEE Member, TAPR Member, ARRL Member, The SETI League ------------------------------------------------------ Join No Code International! Hams for the 21st Century. Help assure the survival and prosperity of ham radio. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1AD69.E3A383C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Carl, altho= ugh I'm in Arizona now, I once visited a plant in Allentown and somewhat = remember that your surrounding area is fairly rural (a good source o= f dishes).  There are 3 ways to get a dish(s): 1. Buy from a ca= talog I have (expensive); 2.Buy from your local satellite TV shop and you= could get a 9-foot dish for about $200;  3.Beat the Bushes.  T= his is the way most of us found a dish, and generally the cost is nothing= .  The owner is usually happy just to have someone take it away= .  You can usually find 12-foot dishes at farm houses, out-of-b= usiness sports bars, etc.  Let me know how it goes fo= r you.  Happy hunting, Lee, Hardware Committee. 
&nb= sp;
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl R= . Stevenson
Sent: Sunday, Fe= bruary 03, 2002 9:20 PM
To: = SETI league Public List (E-mail)
Subject: SETI public: Newcomer to the list
 
Hi= ,

I'm a newcomer to the list, though I've been a member of
the = SETI League for a while.

I'm a licensed amateur (Extra Class), WA6= VSE, and an
RF engineer with a bit over 32 years of experience.
I have a very good 12 acre hilltop location SW of Allentown,
PA and I= 'm looking for sources of cheap or "free for the
taking" dishes.
I see that the League has stopped formally coordinating
the "haves" = and the "wants."  (I guess I should have
started looking sooner.<= BR>
Any leads would be appreciated.  I have the space for
mult= iple dishes.

Regards,
Carl R. Stevenson - wa6vse
<mailto:= wa6vse@fast/net>
<http://www.users.fast.net/~wa6vse>
-----= -------------------------------------------------
NCI-1052
Executiv= e Director, No Code International
Fellow, The Radio Club of AmericaSenior Member, IEEE
Member, TAPR
Member, ARRL
Member, The SETI = League
------------------------------------------------------
Join = No Code International! Hams for the 21st Century.
Help assure the surv= ival and prosperity of ham radio.
<http://www.nocode.org>


------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1AD69.E3A383C0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Feb 4 17:53:15 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g151rEc29008; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id UAA21356 for public-list; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:38:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21352 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.230.12.210]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20020205013854.LPDK12914.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:38:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5F37E0.BED92335@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:39:44 -0500 From: Yvan Dutil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LARRY KLAES CC: setipublic , "Dr. Stuart A. Kingsley" Subject: Re: SETI public: How about Optical ASETI? Re: Simulated ET Message References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by seti1.setileague.org id UAA21353 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is what I got from my archives: Power: The green beacon component of the beam is produced by a 40 watt frequency doubled YAG laser and the invisible signal component is produced by a 2.5 watt infrared diode laser. Maximum switching rate (on-off)? The beacon component is fixed at 20khz. The signal laser transmits data at 115kb/sec. It works the same way your laptop transmits from the infrared port. So, we are merely transferring files from one computer to another over an infrared link but the transmitter is connected to our high power infrared laser so the data is also sent out over the laser beam. Wavelenghts: The frequency doubled YAG laser is 532nm and the infrared diode laser is 810nm. These wavelengths transmit efficiently through the atmosphere. Optical set-up? The laser light is carried to the beam collimator through fiber optic cables. The beam collimator is suspended in the missile silo by steel aircraft cables and is self-leveling so that the beam points straight up. You can got an idea of the whole thing in action from this website: http://www.showlasers.com/starlite.html The detectability of this laser is quite low. With our actual technology a Keck can detect another Keck at few tens parsecs, if a laser beam of 60 kW is used. Our communication link is about a factor a million poorer due to smaller lunch telescope and a weaker laser. ET would need a km-class telescope at to catch us. Yvan Dutil LARRY KLAES a écrit : > Wow - can you go into details on the laser systembeing used for the > transmission? How powerful is it?If you can't point it accurately, > why are you using it? Presumably for a civilization more advanced than > ours,aiming a communications laser at another star systemwould not be > the problem it is for us at present, so intheory Optical ASETI should > work for them. 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------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1B01D.AB4D3AF0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Feb 8 20:11:10 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g194B9c07551; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id XAA13387 for public-list; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:00:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13329; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust142.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.142] helo=office) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZOgJ-0007l2-00; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 20:00:08 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020208225907.0122ae58@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 22:59:07 -0500 To: rcf@setileague.org, heather@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: good publicity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk from the 31 Dec 2001 Central States VHF Society newsletter: ---------------- SETI League News The Seti-League's on going EME Beacon project can be followed at: www.setileague.org./eme and their Array2k project can be followed at: www.setileague.org/array2k SETICon02: The SETI League's second annual Technical Symposium has been scheduled for the weekend of 26 - 28 April 2002, at The College of New Jersey near Trenton, NJ. Papers on a variety of VHF, UHF and microwave topics are anticipated. There will also be an awards banquet, door prizes, hospitality suites, exhibits, Conference Proceedings, and more. For further information, see http://www.setileague.org/seticon/ . ************************************************************ -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 13 16:16:38 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1E0Gbk29799; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id TAA27249 for public-list; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:04:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27238; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust67.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.67] helo=office) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b9OL-0002j2-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:04:49 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020213190410.006e9f9c@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:04:10 -0500 To: mail507@juno.com, public@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: Re: SETI LNA OR DISH Cc: rcf@setileague.org, heather@setileague.org In-Reply-To: <20020213.104811.-388723.2.mail507@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk At 10:48 AM 2/13/02 -0500, mail507@juno.com wrote: >I WOULD LIKE BLUE PRINTS FOR SETI LNA BUT DO YOU GET A BLUEPRINT FROM >SETI NO THEY ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU THE PART TO HELP YOU. A >WORLD AWAY THERE IS LIFE ON A PLANET THAT MAY HAVE MORE BRAINS THEN THE >ONES ON THIS PLANET. YES THERE IS LIFE OUT THERE BUT IT DOES NOT WANT TO >TALK TO US. What a truly bizarre email! For those of you who have not been clever enough to find it for yourselves, the following article contains all the particulars for building a SETI LNA, including links to parts lists, schematics with all pertinent PC board dimensions (the requested 'blueprint'), sources of components, complete kits, and assembled amplifiers: This page may be readily found using the Quick Search function on the main SETI League web page, simply by entering the search criterion 'LNA'. Discovering extraterrestrial intelligence requires the application of a modicum of human intelligence. -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 13 17:03:11 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1E13Ak19763; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id TAA29444 for public-list; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:52:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29438; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust202.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.202] helo=office) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bA8H-00053e-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:52:18 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020213195144.0148b684@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:51:44 -0500 To: public@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: Re: SETI LNA OR DISH Cc: rcf@setileague.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk SETIzens, This is the response (sent to me off-list) of the individual who asked about LNA schematics. Perhaps one of you with a bit of technical experience would care to offer him/her some guidance? >From: mail507@juno.com >I BEEN THERE LIKE TO KNOW LIKE THIS IS NOT A PARTS LIST OR BLUEPRINT BUT >A PLACE TO BUY PARTS FROM . I SAY ANY ONE WHO HAS SETI SCREEN SAVE AND >CAN RUN IT NEEDS INTERNET CONNECTION I WAS TOLD IF YOU GET THIS RADIO >SCANNER AND SETI YOU DO NOT NEED INTERNET CONNECTIONS. WILL I DID AND NO >WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. AND FOR THE LNAS I HAD ONE AND ONLY PICKED UP TV. >LIKE DBS. WHO EVER TUNED IT TUNED IT WRONG AND SOLD IT TO ME FOR A LOT >MORE THEN IT WAS WORTH. THANK YOU. IF THE HAD A WAY OF LIVE ONLINE FEEDS >LIKE TO A SUPER COMPUTER LIKE AT NASA AND CAN USE THE COMPUTER FOR A >SWEEP WHAT WOULD YOU SEE . ANY GOOD PEAKS OR DOOR OPENNER LIKE >DOWNUNDER.F >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 13 19:40:08 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1E3e6k18826; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id WAA06868 for public-list; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:29:25 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe56.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.198]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06853; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:28:50 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.189.18] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" , "BioAstro" Subject: SETI public: Fw: Our Solar System as seen by Alien Astronomers Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:28:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B4DD.C61B6220" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2002 03:28:50.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8177C70:01C1B507] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B4DD.C61B6220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Kellogg Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:39 PM To: lunar-update@lists.arc.nasa.gov Cc: Larry Kellogg Subject: Our Solar System as seen by Alien Astronomers Good midweek day to you all. Ric Campo, who used to work with us on the Pioneer missions and Lunar Prospector mission and now with Lockheed/Martin on Gravity B, passed me this link on the space.com site. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/dust_view_020212-1.html What caught his eye was that "Pioneer gets credit for something". Just for the record, Pioneer 10 will have been heading out into space for 30 years as of March 2, 2002. - LRK - =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer posted: 07:00 am ET 12 February 2002 If alien astronomers from a nearby star system pointed their version of the Hubble Space Telescope at Earth, astronomer Markus Landgraf believes they would not see our planet but they would find hints of our presence. With their infrared camera, the smart aliens would detect a vast donut-shaped ring of dust with a classic hole in the middle, all surrounding a yellow star. A little math, Landgraf says, and they could deduce the presence of a large planet, like Jupiter, that had cleared out the hole. They would also spot Neptune's signature scrawled in the dust. If this culture's astronomical knowledge were as advanced as ours, they would then wonder if a planet like their own, a habitable world, also orbited the yellow star. Landgraf, an earthbound astronomer working in Darmstadt, Germany, as a mission analyst for the European Space Agency, studies data collected by a pair of space probes that left Earth three decades ago. His research, along with that of some colleagues, is making a mirror out of our solar system, one that reflects on other stars and the planets they might harbor. Faster than a bullet Our solar system's donut is made up of dust grains of many sizes. In order to see signs of planets in the dust, the alien astronomers would need to tune their instruments to spot the smallest dust. Landgraf studies this, too, bits that are just one-hundredth of a millimeter, or dozens of times tinier than a typical grain of sand. It is everywhere in our solar system, zipping around ten times faster than a rifle bullet. Near Earth's orbit around the Sun, there is about one spec of this small dust in each cubic kilometer of space, Landgraf says. If there were no planets circling the Sun, the dust inside Jupiter's orbit would be at least twice as dense, he said. The densest portion of the dust donut is beyond Saturn's orbit, at about fifteen times the Sun-Earth distance. Here, larger dust grains rule. The Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft found this far-out, high concentration of dust in the 1970s and early '80s. Previously, astronomers had expected dust to thin out with distance from the Sun, because they knew that solar radiation created drag on the dust particles, causing them to spiral inward to the Sun. Dust factories Ever since the Pioneer findings, astronomers have wondered where all the dust comes from. Since theory held that such dust would eventually be shipped to the Sun, there must be some mighty dust factories out in the suburbs of the solar system, replenishing the supply. Landgraf and his colleagues have estimated that 50 tons of dust are produced every second. As with many things in the universe, violent collisions are behind it all= . Using the old Pioneer data, Landgraf and his colleagues demonstrated through computer modeling that comet-like objects beyond the orbit of Neptune are the sources of the dust. "They tend to collide with each other," Landgraf explains. "Much like a brick you let fall from your roof that hits the ground in your driveway, they explode into millions of pieces." The solution might seem obvious. But the distant comets, often called Kuiper Belt Objects, were not known until the early 1990s. Only in the past five years or so has anyone tried to link them to the dust, Landgraf said. The research revealed another dust-generation method at work, too. Alien dust -- typically even smaller particles -- wafts through the galaxy, and our solar system continually plows through it, Landgraf said. Like sandpaper, this interstellar dust rubs on comets and makes more dust. Trapped snip See the web site for the rest of the story - I got you to Pioneer 10 and 11 and that is what caught my eye also but there is more, so check out the whole story. A few more snips about Pioneer 10 for those new to the list - LRK - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------- http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pioneer/PNhome.html Launched on 2 March 1972, Pioneer 10 was the first spacecraft to travel through the Asteroid belt, and the first spacecraft to make direct observations and obtain close-up images of Jupiter. Famed as the most remote object ever made by man, Pioneer 10 is now over 7.3 billion miles away (Until 17 February 1998, the heliocentric radial distance of Pioneer 10 had been greater than that of any other manmade object. But late on that date Voyager 1's heliocentric radial distance, in the approximate apex direction, equaled that of Pioneer 10 at 69.419 AU. Thereafter, Voyager 1's distance will exceed that of Pioneer 10 at the approximate rate of 1.016 AU per year). The spacecraft made valuable scientific investigations in the outer regions of our solar system until the end of its mission on 31 March 1997. The Pioneer 10 weak signal continues to be tracked by the DSN as part of a new advanced concept study of chaos theory. Pioneer 10 is headed towards the constellation of Taurus (The Bull). It will take Pioneer over 2 million years to pass by one of the stars in the constellation. snip http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pioneer/PNStat.html Pioneer 10 distance from Sun : 79.66 AU Speed relative to the Sun: 12.24 km/sec (27,380 mph) Distance from Earth: 11.84 billion kilometers (7.36 billion miles) Round-trip Light Time: 21 hours 56 minutes Pioneer 10 had another successful track on 7/9/01 - exactly one year after the last pointing maneuver. The original results back on 7/9/00 - weak signal - seemed to indicate that the maneuver may have failed. The signal strengths from the latest tracks, however, indicate that last year's weak signal was probably due to the onboard one-way oscillator. Therefore, we conclude that the maneuver did work, and another pointing maneuver will not be necessary until first quarter 2002. Larry Lasher, Pioneer Project Manager snip -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------- And for bragging rights - the image of the Pioneer data is from the Pioneer 10 Telemetry system re-written to run on a Mac Quadra 950 by yours truly back in 1995. The red switches indicates that there were some items out of limit. Cold, is Cold, is Cold when you have shut most everything off except Dr. Van Allen's Geiger Tube Telescope. The application software that was used to write the program was National Instrument's LabVIEW version 3.0, which is now in version 6.1. My how time does fly when you are having fun. LRK =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D If you any suggestions or comments please feel free to write to my Ames e= -mail lkellogg@mail.arc.nasa.gov Larry Kellogg =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK http://home.mindspring.com/~larrykellogg =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To remove yourself from the lunar-update emailer simply send a message to= - To:lunar-update-request@lists.arc.nasa.gov From: Subject: unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------- If you were passed this email and want to subscribe to the lunar-update list send a message to To:lunar-update-request@lists.arc.nasa.gov From: Subject: subscribe =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- Larry R. 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----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Kellogg
Sent: Wednes= day, February 13, 2002 4:39 PM
T= o: lunar-update@lists.arc.nasa.gov
Cc: Larry Kellogg
Sub= ject: Our Solar System as seen by Alien Astronomers
 =
Good midweek day to you all.

Ric Campo, who used to work wit= h us on the Pioneer missions and Lunar
Prospector mission and now with= Lockheed/Martin on Gravity B, passed
me this link on the space.com si= te.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/dust_view_020212-1= .html

What caught his eye was that  "Pioneer gets credit for = something".

Just for the record, Pioneer 10 will have been heading= out into space
for 30 years as of March 2, 2002. - LRK -
=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted= : 07:00 am ET
12 February 2002

If alien astronomers from a near= by star system pointed their version
of the Hubble Space Telescope
= at Earth, astronomer Markus Landgraf believes they would not see our
p= lanet but they would find
hints of our presence.

With their inf= rared camera, the smart aliens would detect a vast
donut-shaped ring o= f dust with a
classic hole in the middle, all surrounding a yellow sta= r. A little
math, Landgraf says, and they
could deduce the presence= of a large planet, like Jupiter, that had
cleared out the hole. They = would
also spot Neptune's signature scrawled in the dust.

If th= is culture's astronomical knowledge were as advanced as ours,
they wou= ld then wonder if a         =             &= nbsp;    planet like
their own, a habitable world, also= orbited the yellow star.

Landgraf, an earthbound astronomer worki= ng in Darmstadt, Germany, as
a mission analyst for the  &nbs= p;            = ;           European Sp= ace
Agency, studies data collected by a pair of space probes that left=
Earth three decades
ago. His research, along with that of some col= leagues, is making a
mirror out of our solar system, one that reflects= on other stars and
the planets they might harbor.

Faster than = a bullet

Our solar system's donut is made up of dust grains of man= y sizes. In
order to see signs of planets in the dust, the alien astro= nomers
would need to tune their instruments to spot the smallest dust.=
Landgraf studies this, too, bits that are just one-hundredth of a
= millimeter, or dozens of times tinier than a typical grain of sand.
It= is everywhere in our solar system, zipping around ten times faster
th= an a rifle bullet.

Near Earth's orbit around the Sun, there is abo= ut one spec of this
small dust in each cubic kilometer of space, Landg= raf says. If there
were no planets circling the Sun, the dust inside J= upiter's orbit
would be at least twice as dense, he said.

The d= ensest portion of the dust donut is beyond Saturn's orbit, at
about fi= fteen times the Sun-Earth        =             &= nbsp;     distance.
Here, larger dust grains rule.=

The Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft found this far-out, high
conc= entration of dust in the 1970s and early '80s. Previously,
astronomers= had expected dust to thin out with distance from the Sun,
because the= y knew that solar radiation created drag on the dust
particles, causin= g them to spiral inward to the Sun.

Dust factories

Ever sin= ce the Pioneer findings, astronomers have wondered where all
the dust = comes from. Since theory held that such dust would
eventually be shipp= ed to the Sun, there must be some mighty dust
factories out in the sub= urbs of the solar system,  replenishing the
supply. Landgraf and = his colleagues have estimated that 50 tons of
dust are produced every = second.

As with many things in the universe, violent collisions ar= e behind it all.

Using the old Pioneer data, Landgraf and his coll= eagues demonstrated
through computer  modeling that comet-like ob= jects beyond the orbit
of Neptune are the sources of the dust.

= "They tend to collide with each other," Landgraf explains. "Much like
= a brick you let fall from your roof that hits the ground in your
drive= way, they explode into millions of pieces."

The solution might see= m obvious. But the distant comets, often called
Kuiper Belt Objects, w= ere not
known until the early 1990s. Only in the past five years or so= has
anyone tried to link them to the dust, Landgraf said.

The = research revealed another dust-generation method at work, too.
Alien d= ust -- typically even smaller particles -- wafts through the
galaxy, a= nd our solar system continually plows through it, Landgraf
said. Like = sandpaper, this interstellar dust rubs on  comets and
makes more = dust.

Trapped

snip

See the web site for the rest of = the story - I got you to Pioneer 10
and 11 and that is what caught my = eye also but there is more, so
check out the  whole story.
A few more snips about Pioneer 10 for those  new to the list - LRK = -
--------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------
http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Sp= ace_Projects/pioneer/PNhome.html
Launched on 2 March 1972, Pioneer 10 = was the first spacecraft to
travel through the Asteroid belt, and the = first spacecraft to make
direct observations and obtain close-up image= s of Jupiter. Famed as
the most remote object ever made by man, Pionee= r 10 is now over 7.3
billion miles away (Until 17 February 1998, the h= eliocentric radial
distance of Pioneer 10 had been greater than that o= f any other
manmade object. But late on that date Voyager 1's heliocen= tric radial
distance, in the approximate apex direction, equaled that = of Pioneer
10 at 69.419 AU. Thereafter, Voyager 1's distance will exce= ed that of
Pioneer 10 at the approximate rate of 1.016 AU per year). T= he
spacecraft made valuable scientific investigations in the outer
= regions of our solar system until the end of its mission on 31 March
1= 997. The Pioneer 10 weak signal continues to be tracked by the DSN
as = part of a new advanced concept study of chaos theory. Pioneer 10
is he= aded towards the constellation of Taurus (The Bull). It will
take Pion= eer over 2 million years to pass by one of the stars in the
constellat= ion.
snip

http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pion= eer/PNStat.html
Pioneer 10 distance from Sun : 79.66 AU Speed relative= to the Sun:
12.24 km/sec (27,380 mph) Distance from Earth: 11.84 bill= ion
kilometers (7.36 billion miles) Round-trip Light Time: 21 hours 56=
minutes

Pioneer 10 had another successful track on 7/9/01 - ex= actly one year
after the last pointing maneuver. The original results = back on 7/9/00
- weak signal - seemed to indicate that the maneuver ma= y have
failed. The signal strengths from the latest tracks, however,indicate that last year's weak signal was probably due to the onboardone-way oscillator. Therefore, we conclude that the maneuver did
wor= k, and another pointing maneuver will not be necessary until first
qua= rter 2002.

Larry Lasher, Pioneer Project Manager
snip
------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------
And for bragging rights - the image of the Pion= eer data is from the
Pioneer 10 Telemetry system re-written to run on = a Mac Quadra 950 by
yours truly back in 1995.  The red switches i= ndicates that there were
some items out of limit.  Cold, is Cold,= is Cold when you have shut
most everything off except Dr. Van Allen's= Geiger Tube Telescope.

The application software that was used to = write the program  was
National Instrument's LabVIEW version 3.0,= which is now in version
6.1.

My how time does fly when you are= having fun.

LRK
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
If you any suggest= ions or comments please feel free to write to my Ames e-mail

lkell= ogg@mail.arc.nasa.gov

Larry Kellogg
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<= BR>WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK
http= ://home.mindspring.com/~larrykellogg
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
To = remove yourself from the lunar-update emailer simply send a message to -<= BR>
To:lunar-update-request@lists.arc.nasa.gov
From:<your e-mail= address>
Subject: unsubscribe
---------------------------------= -------------------
If you were passed this email and want to subscrib= e to the
lunar-update list send a message to

To:lunar-update-re= quest@lists.arc.nasa.gov
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
--
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http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov

<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B4DD.C61B6220-- From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Feb 14 08:51:10 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1EGp9k16064; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id LAA13246 for public-list; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:41:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13240; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust53.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.53] helo=office) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bOwf-0006uk-00; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:41:18 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020214114010.01291fdc@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:40:10 -0500 To: mail507@juno.com From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: Re: SETI LNA OR DISH Cc: public@setileague.org, rcf@setileague.org, heather@setileague.org In-Reply-To: <20020213.114450.-388723.4.mail507@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Allow me to try one last time to clarify your confusion. As explained in my editorial at , SETI is a science, not a single search. There are many different SETI experiments conducted around the world, by a variety of organizations. One of them, the SETI@home distributed computing experiment with which you are apparently familiar, is run by friends of mine at the University of California, Berkeley. Public participation is possible (in fact, is encouraged), and does indeed require an occasiional internet connection. This is discussed online, at . My organization, The SETI League, is not directly involved with SETI@home, although we support it. Ours is a worldwide alliance of 1300 amateur radio astronomers in 62 countries. Mostly, we build radio telescopes. Already, our members have over 110 small radio telescopes on the air, with many more under construction. The LNA plans that I previously pointed out to you were prepared for their benefit. Many such amplifiers (and, in fact, whole stations) have been built, but by individuals possessing a background in electronics. Like ham radio and computer networking, this is a technical hobby, requiring some specialized background and training. It is not an appropriate pursuit for everybody. I have in my bedroom a well restored 19th Century Italian violin, capable of making beautiful music. But I cannot simply put it in the hands of anybody, and expect beautiful music to issue forth. So it is with radio astronomy receive equipment. SETI@home is more like a good stereo, which most of us can operate. The SETI League's efforts to build more radio telescopes were never meant to replace, or supplant, the SETI@home internet connection. (In fact, our efforts started more than four years before the SETI@home project was launched.) No, an LNA designed for DBS satellite reception will NOT work well as part of a SETI radio telescope. Whoever sold you DBS equipment for this specialized application was misinformed, and apparently misinformed you. If you want to study microwave electronics, and learn how to build and operate your own SETI receiving eqiupment, then there are hundreds of SETI League volunteers around the world who will be happy to help. But please do not think of our project as a replacement for your internet connection, or an adjunct to the SETI@home distributed computing experiment. They are different research, with different goals altogether. You asked what we would see if we had a proper wideband feed. For an example of some interesting SETI@home anomalies observed to date, see . For a look at what SETI League members are seeing with their own radio telescopes, take a look at . Thank you for your interest in SETI, and I do apologize for any confusion. I invite all participants in The SETI League's PUBLIC open email list, whether SETI League members or not, to share the above information with any others who may harbor similar misconceptions. Yours for SETI success, Paul At 11:44 AM 2/13/02 -0500, you wrote: > >I BEEN THERE LIKE TO KNOW LIKE THIS IS NOT A PARTS LIST OR BLUEPRINT BUT >A PLACE TO BUY PARTS FROM . I SAY ANY ONE WHO HAS SETI SCREEN SAVE AND >CAN RUN IT NEEDS INTERNET CONNECTION I WAS TOLD IF YOU GET THIS RADIO >SCANNER AND SETI YOU DO NOT NEED INTERNET CONNECTIONS. WILL I DID AND NO >WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. AND FOR THE LNAS I HAD ONE AND ONLY PICKED UP TV. >LIKE DBS. WHO EVER TUNED IT TUNED IT WRONG AND SOLD IT TO ME FOR A LOT >MORE THEN IT WAS WORTH. THANK YOU. IF THE HAD A WAY OF LIVE ONLINE FEEDS >LIKE TO A SUPER COMPUTER LIKE AT NASA AND CAN USE THE COMPUTER FOR A >SWEEP WHAT WOULD YOU SEE . ANY GOOD PEAKS OR DOOR OPENNER LIKE >DOWNUNDER.F -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Feb 14 21:00:24 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1F50Fk24599; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id XAA16938 for public-list; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:51:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe139.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.132]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16934 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:50:55 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.188.98] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Fw: targets Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:50:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1B5B2.6B815A10" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2002 04:50:55.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A854300:01C1B5DC] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1B5B2.6B815A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Henry Cheasley Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:35 PM To: LARRY KLAES Cc: Dr H Paul Shuch Subject: targets >From Argus Station FN35dm Peter H Cheasley Feb 14 2002 Dear Larry Klars In your last list you mentioned hit SN2002 RA06 12 25 05 Dec +44 26 16 8 My euipmeny a fixed antenna and I judge the RA and Dec on Red Shift 3 so I am not that accurate.I also convert the signals to cycles per minute. Tonight 1.30U TC Feb 15 2002 RA O6 13 59 15 Dec +45 24 11 61 1.30UTC (atomic clock) At 1.30.00.12 to 1.30 .05.28 ( approx 5 sec) a solid signal 5587.652 cycles per minute. Probably means nothing but I thought that I would make you aware of it 73 Peter H Cheasley ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1B5B2.6B815A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
<= DIV> 
=
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Henry Cheasley
Sent:= Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:35 PM
Cc:= Dr H Paul Shuch
Subject: ta= rgets
 
From Argus Station FN35dm Peter H Cheasley F= eb 14 2002
Dear Larry Klars
In your last list you mentioned hit SN2= 002 RA06 12 25 05 Dec +44 26 16 8

My euipmeny a fixed antenna and = I judge the RA and Dec on Red Shift 3 so
I am not that accurate.I also= convert the signals to cycles per minute.

Tonight 1.30U TC Feb 15= 2002
RA O6 13 59 15 Dec +45 24 11 61 1.30UTC (atomic clock)

At= 1.30.00.12 to 1.30 .05.28 ( approx 5 sec) a solid signal 5587.652
cyc= les per minute.

Probably means nothing but I thought that I would<= BR>make you aware of it
73
Peter H Cheasley
= ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1B5B2.6B815A10-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Feb 15 08:00:49 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1FG0mk01036; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA17264 for public-list; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:50:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17232; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust138.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.138] helo=office) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bkcK-0006ZB-00; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 07:49:45 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020215104752.0149e070@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:47:52 -0500 To: heather@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: SETI humor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk MESSAGE FROM OUTER SPACE ALIENS CONTACT NASA: "QUIT SENDING US YOUR STUPID JUNK" WASHINGTON, DC (DPI) - History was changed forever yesterday when NASA received a transmission from an alien species. The brief message, addressed to "abuse@NASA.gov," read simply: Humans -- Please discontinue sending stupid unsolicited transmissions and debris to us. We have received several metallic craft bearing objects, crude drawings, and disks which play noises when scratched with crystal-tipped needles. We don't know who "Bach" is, but tell him for us that he should consider another profession. Honestly, we receive thousands of unsolicited transmissions and craft from societies such as yourself to the point where they become a great nuisance, so discontinue this practice immediately or we will be forced to report you to your information provider or, more simply, blow up your stupid planet and all your stupid life-forms. Send your junk to the Gezor -- they have all the class and intelligence of stewed clazin. Regards, Elinzoa Glppaducc Information Processing Coordinator The Shati-Makal NASA immediately cancelled plans to send up a time capsule containing a CD of the Ricky Martin hit, "Livin' La Vida Loca", and a VHS copy of "Friends." -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Sat Feb 16 15:29:37 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1GNTak30100; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA13810 for public-list; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:15:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13806 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Zeke (dt0f0n35.san.rr.com [204.210.39.53]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g1GNFT124205 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:15:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <03a701c1b740$1415af80$ab7ba8c0@Zeke> From: "James Brown" To: "Public SETI-League" Subject: SETI public: Test Message Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:17:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03A4_01C1B6FD.05D0B6B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03A4_01C1B6FD.05D0B6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test James Brown Jim@Seti.Net - MSM Messenger Jim@Seti.Net www.Seti.Net Argus Station: DM12jw W6KYP ------=_NextPart_000_03A4_01C1B6FD.05D0B6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_03A4_01C1B6FD.05D0B6B0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Feb 19 16:56:03 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1K0u2k27037; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id TAA19179 for public-list; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:41:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe33.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.32.113]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19175 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:40:56 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.186.170.152] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Fw: Space-Weather-Advisory Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:40:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0009_01C1B97D.5803D020" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2002 00:40:56.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[425EA360:01C1B9A7] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C1B97D.5803D020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is this information useful to Argus members with active stations? ----- Original Message ----- From: daemon@sec.noaa.gov Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: advisory-list-send@dawn.sec.noaa.gov Subject: Space-Weather-Advisory Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Center Boulder, Colorado, USA SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK #02- 8 2002 February 19 at 12:00 p.m. MST (2002 February 19 1900 UT) **** SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK **** Summary For February 11-17 There were no space weather storms during the period. Outlook For February 20-26 Space weather is expected to increase to minor to moderate levels. Isolated category R1 (minor) radio blackouts are likely during the period. There will also be a chance for an isolated category R2 (moderate) radio blackout. There will be a slight chance for a category S1 (minor) solar radiation storm during the period. Data used to provide space weather services are contributed by NOAA, USAF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the International Space Environment Services and other observatories, universities, and institutions. More information is available at SEC's Web site http://sec.noaa.gov or (303) 497-5127. The NOAA Public Affairs contact is Barbara McGehan at bmcgehan@boulder.noaa.gov or (303) 497-6288. ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C1B97D.5803D020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is this inform= ation useful to Argus members with active stations?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: daemon@sec.n= oaa.gov
Sent: Tuesday, Febru= ary 19, 2002 3:19 PM
To: adv= isory-list-send@dawn.sec.noaa.gov
<= B>Subject: Space-Weather-Advisory
 

Official= Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Center
Boulde= r, Colorado, USA

SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK #02- 8
2002 February 19 = at 12:00 p.m. MST (2002 February 19 1900 UT)

**** SPACE WEATHER OU= TLOOK ****

Summary For February 11-17
There were no space weath= er storms during the period.

Outlook For February 20-26
Space w= eather is expected to increase to minor to moderate levels.
Isolated c= ategory R1 (minor) radio blackouts are likely during the
period. There= will also be a chance for an isolated category R2
(moderate) radio bl= ackout. There will be a slight chance for a category
S1 (minor) solar = radiation storm during the period.

Data used to provide space weat= her services are contributed by NOAA,
USAF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the Inter= national Space Environment Services
and other observatories, universit= ies, and institutions. More
information is available at SEC's Web site= http://sec.noaa.gov or
(303) 497-5127.  The NOAA Public Affairs = contact is Barbara McGehan
at bmcgehan@boulder.noaa.gov or (303) 497-6= 288.


------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C1B97D.5803D020-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Feb 19 17:27:06 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1K1R5k01358; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id UAA20690 for public-list; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:11:53 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20686 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from Zeke (dt0f0n35.san.rr.com [204.210.39.53]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g1K1Bm121527; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:11:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000d01c1b9ab$c4c67090$ab7ba8c0@Zeke> From: "James Brown" To: "LARRY KLAES" , "setipublic" References: Subject: Re: SETI public: Fw: Space-Weather-Advisory Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:13:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B968.B64902A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B968.B64902A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know for sure Larry. I guess I would use it if I saw a large = amount of noise in my system. I could then check NOAA as a possible = cause. Any other use? James Brown Jim@Seti.Net - MSM Messenger Jim@Seti.Net www.Seti.Net Argus Station: DM12jw W6KYP ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LARRY KLAES=20 To: setipublic=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: SETI public: Fw: Space-Weather-Advisory Is this information useful to Argus members with active stations? ----- Original Message ----- From: daemon@sec.noaa.gov Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: advisory-list-send@dawn.sec.noaa.gov Subject: Space-Weather-Advisory Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment = Center Boulder, Colorado, USA SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK #02- 8 2002 February 19 at 12:00 p.m. MST (2002 February 19 1900 UT) **** SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK **** Summary For February 11-17 There were no space weather storms during the period. Outlook For February 20-26 Space weather is expected to increase to minor to moderate levels. Isolated category R1 (minor) radio blackouts are likely during the period. There will also be a chance for an isolated category R2 (moderate) radio blackout. There will be a slight chance for a = category S1 (minor) solar radiation storm during the period. Data used to provide space weather services are contributed by NOAA, USAF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the International Space Environment Services and other observatories, universities, and institutions. More information is available at SEC's Web site http://sec.noaa.gov or (303) 497-5127. The NOAA Public Affairs contact is Barbara McGehan at bmcgehan@boulder.noaa.gov or (303) 497-6288. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B968.B64902A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know for sure Larry.  I guess I = would use it=20 if I saw a large amount of noise in my system.  I could then check = NOAA as=20 a possible cause.  Any other use?
James Brown
Jim@Seti.Net - MSM Messenger Jim@Seti.Net
www.Seti.Net
Argus Station:=20 DM12jw
W6KYP
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 LARRY KLAES =
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, = 2002 4:40=20 PM
Subject: SETI public: Fw:=20 Space-Weather-Advisory

Is this information useful to Argus members with active = stations?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: daemon@sec.noaa.gov
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, = 2002 3:19=20 PM
To: advisory-list-send@d= awn.sec.noaa.gov
Subject: = Space-Weather-Advisory
 

Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA = Space=20 Environment Center
Boulder, Colorado, USA

SPACE WEATHER = OUTLOOK=20 #02- 8
2002 February 19 at 12:00 p.m. MST (2002 February 19 1900=20 UT)

**** SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK ****

Summary For = February=20 11-17
There were no space weather storms during the=20 period.

Outlook For February 20-26
Space weather is = expected to=20 increase to minor to moderate levels.
Isolated category R1 = (minor) radio=20 blackouts are likely during the
period. There will also be a = chance for=20 an isolated category R2
(moderate) radio blackout. There will be = a slight=20 chance for a category
S1 (minor) solar radiation storm during the = period.

Data used to provide space weather services are = contributed=20 by NOAA,
USAF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the International Space = Environment=20 Services
and other observatories, universities, and institutions. = More
information is available at SEC's Web site = http://sec.noaa.gov=20 or
(303) 497-5127.  The NOAA Public Affairs contact is = Barbara=20 McGehan
at bmcgehan@boulder.noaa.gov or (303)=20 497-6288.


------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B968.B64902A0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 20 03:58:09 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1KBw8k29794; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id GAA20215 for public-list; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:46:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from mta02ps.bigpond.com (mta02ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.134]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20211 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from user ([144.135.25.78]) by mta02ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GRTXZW00.DD4 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:45:32 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-136-150-126.qld.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.150.126]) by PSMAM04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0i 92/7428458); 20 Feb 2002 21:45:32 Message-ID: <001401c1ba04$61d5c680$7e968890@user> From: "Noel" To: "public@seti" Subject: SETI public: Thought this little snippet was of interest!!! Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:47:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1BA58.335EBE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1BA58.335EBE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List, Well, if your serious, and you want to witness something that won't = happen again for a loooooooooooooooooooooong, loooooooooooooooooooong = time to come, then check this out: As you know, according to the 24-hour 'military' clock, 20:00 hours is = 8 PM. Well, 8:02 PM on February 20 this year will be a historic moment = in time. At that precise time, on that specific date, something will = happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never happen = again. As the clock ticks over to 8:02 PM on Wednesday, February 20, = time will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry: 2002, 2002, = 2002 or, to be more precise, 20:02, 20/02, 2002. In other words, 2 = minutes past the 20th hour (20:02) the 20th day of the 2nd month, = (20/02) of 2002 (2002). The last occasion time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long = before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock -- at 10:01 = AM on January 10, 1001. And, because the 24-hour clock only goes up to = 23:59, it is something that will not happen again until 21:12 on 21/12, = 2112! Noel C. Welstead Seti League Volcor Eastern Australia ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1BA58.335EBE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear List,
Well, if your serious, and you want = to witness=20 something that won't happen again for a loooooooooooooooooooooong,=20 loooooooooooooooooooong time to come, then check this out:

As = you know,=20 according to the 24-hour 'military' clock, 20:00 hours is 8 PM. Well, = 8:02 PM=20 on February 20 this year will be a historic moment in time. At that = precise=20 time, on that specific date, something will happen which has not = occurred for=20 1,001 years and will never happen again. As the clock ticks over to = 8:02 PM on=20 Wednesday, February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, read in = perfect=20 symmetry: 2002, 2002, 2002 or, to be more precise, 20:02, 20/02, 2002. = In=20 other words, 2 minutes past the 20th hour (20:02) the 20th day of the = 2nd=20 month, (20/02) of 2002 (2002).

The last occasion time read in = such a=20 symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch and = the=20 24-hour clock -- at 10:01 AM on January 10, 1001. And, because the = 24-hour=20 clock only goes up to 23:59, it is something that will not happen = again until=20 21:12 on 21/12, 2112!
 
 
 
Noel C. Welstead
Seti League Volcor
Eastern Australia
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1BA58.335EBE20-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 20 06:15:44 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1KEFhk05641; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id JAA26578 for public-list; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:02:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26566; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust227.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net ([67.211.118.227] helo=office) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16dXJw-0000tc-00; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:02:09 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20020220090138.014cdbe0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:01:38 -0500 To: "Noel" , "public@seti" From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: Re: SETI public: Thought this little snippet was of interest!!! Cc: rcf@setileague.org In-Reply-To: <001401c1ba04$61d5c680$7e968890@user> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk At 09:47 PM 2/20/02 +1000, Noel wrote: > At that precise time, on that specific date, something will happen >which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never happen again. "Never" is a long time, Noel, and in this case, untrue. Consider 21 hours 12 minutes on 21 December in the year 2112. (21:12, 21/12 2112). -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Feb 21 08:10:11 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1LGAAk28171; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA06576 for public-list; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:26:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe40.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.32.120]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06566; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:25:50 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.24.65.244] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" , "volcor" Subject: SETI public: Fw: SETI bioastro: New Journal - International Journal of Astrobiology Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:25:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000A_01C1BAC2.1C7A1870" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2002 15:25:50.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B0CF010:01C1BAEC] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C1BAC2.1C7A1870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Lancaster Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:07 AM To: bioastro@setileague.org Subject: SETI bioastro: New Journal - International Journal of Astrobiolo= gy Dear Reader Cambridge University Press is pleased to announce the launch of the Inter= national Journal of Astrobiology, which will soon be available online at = the Cambridge Journals Online site http://journals.cambridge.org =20 The journal aims to become a major forum for the study of astrobiology an= d will publish peer-reviewed research papers, review articles, book revie= ws and news of interest to the astrobiology community. 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=
----- Original Message -----
From: Helen Lancaster
Sent: Wedn= esday, February 20, 2002 9:07 AM
To: bioastro@setileague.org
Subject: SETI bioastro: New Journal - International Journal of Astro= biology
 
Dear Reader

Cambridg= e University Press is pleased to announce the launch of the International= Journal of Astrobiology, which will soon be available online at the Camb= ridge Journals Online site  http://journals.cambridge.org 

The= journal aims to become a major forum for the study of astrobiology and w= ill publish peer-reviewed research papers, review articles, book reviews = and news of interest to the astrobiology community.

SUBJECTS COVER= ED WILL INCLUDE:

* Cosmic prebiotic chemistry
* Planetary evolu= tion
* Search for planetary systems and habitable zones
* Origins, = evolution and distribution of life
* Extremophile biology and experime= ntal simulation of extraterrestrial environments
* Life detection in o= ur solar system and beyond
* Technologies and space missions for astro= biology and planetary protection
* Human expansion, ecosystems and lif= e support beyond Earth
* Intelligent life and societal aspects of astr= obiology

FREE ARTICLES
We would like to offer you free online a= ccess to selected articles from the first issue of International Journal = of Astrobiology as soon as they are available online.  Please email = astrobiology@cambridge.org if you are interested in finding out more abou= t this.  We will notify you when the first issue is online, and expl= ain how you can access the free sample articles (available for a limited = period of time).

CALL FOR PAPERS
Papers and contributions are n= ow being accepted by the Managing Editor, Dr Simon Mitton.  For subm= ission details, please visit http://uk.cambridge.org/journals/ija/i= jaifc.htm

Alternatively, you can write to: Dr Simon Mitton, Ca= mbridge University Press, The Edinburgh Building, Cambridge CB2 2RU, UK
SUBSCRIPTION DETAILS
Quarterly
Volume 1 in 2002: January, Apr= il, July and October
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------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C1BAC2.1C7A1870-- From owner-public@setileague.org Thu Feb 21 08:29:59 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1LGTwk31578; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id LAA02965 for public-list; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:20:31 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02961; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: oe50.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.32.130]) id QQmdek22993; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:37:18 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:36:55 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.24.65.244] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "BioAstro" , "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: What if ETI are hostile and exoplanets near galactic center? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:36:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1BAC3.A91577B0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2002 15:36:55.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[9755C280:01C1BAED] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1BAC3.A91577B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Runaway Growth: Possible Origin for Supermassive Black Holes http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/blackholes_midsize_020221= .html A growing understanding of the missing link in the chain of black hole ev= olution may soon help astronomers sort out how stars evolve and how galax= ies, in general, are built. * Will ET Be Hostile? Alienated People Are More Likely to Say 'Yes' http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_hostiles_020221.html Astronomer Frank Drake, the Father of SETI, has argued that ET will likel= y be altruistic, rather than malevolent. Drake reasons that if extraterre= strials are hostile, then their civilizations won't last very long, and w= e're unlikely to make contact with them. Only extraterrestrials with a lo= ng-lasting, stable society will be around long enough to be detected by o= ur SETI programs. * Several Extrasolar Planets Suspected Near Center of Galaxy http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/forty_planets_020220.html Newly released and unconfirmed data from a survey of several thousand sta= rs near the center of our galaxy indicates that dozens have objects orbit= ing them, some of which may be planets. ----------------------------------- Today in Missions/Launches: * An 'Amazed' John Glenn Chats with Space Station Crew http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/glenn_nasa_020220.html Pioneering U.S. rocket rider John Glenn chatted with the International Sp= ace Station crew Wednesday, saying the advances the human race has made i= n orbit during the past 40 years astound him. * Spacewalkers Finish Odd Jobs Amid Anniversary Nod to John Glenn http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/exp4_pm_020220.html Two U.S. spacewalkers ambled through a series of odd jobs outside the Int= ernational Space Station Wednesday, taking time to mark the 40th annivers= ary of John Glenn's groundbreaking flight into space. ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1BAC3.A91577B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
* Runaway Grow= th: Possible Origin for Supermassive Black Holes
http://www.space.com/= scienceastronomy/astronomy/blackholes_midsize_020221.html

A growin= g understanding of the missing link in the chain of black hole evolution = may soon help astronomers sort out how stars evolve and how galaxies, in = general, are built.

* Will ET Be Hostile? Alienated People Are Mor= e Likely to Say 'Yes'
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_hostiles= _020221.html

Astronomer Frank Drake, the Father of SETI, has argue= d that ET will likely be altruistic, rather than malevolent. Drake reason= s that if extraterrestrials are hostile, then their civilizations won't l= ast very long, and we're unlikely to make contact with them. Only extrate= rrestrials with a long-lasting, stable society will be around long enough= to be detected by our SETI programs.

* Several Extrasolar Planets= Suspected Near Center of Galaxy
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy= /astronomy/forty_planets_020220.html

Newly released and unconfirme= d data from a survey of several thousand stars near the center of our gal= axy indicates that dozens have objects orbiting them, some of which may b= e planets.

-----------------------------------

Today in Mis= sions/Launches:

* An 'Amazed' John Glenn Chats with Space Station = Crew
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/glenn_nasa_020220.html
Pioneering U.S. rocket rider John Glenn chatted with the International = Space Station crew Wednesday, saying the advances the human race has made= in orbit during the past 40 years astound him.

* Spacewalkers Fin= ish Odd Jobs Amid Anniversary Nod to John Glenn
http://www.space.com/m= issionlaunches/exp4_pm_020220.html

Two U.S. spacewalkers ambled th= rough a series of odd jobs outside the International Space Station Wednes= day, taking time to mark the 40th anniversary of John Glenn's groundbreak= ing flight into space.

------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1BAC3.A91577B0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Feb 22 08:15:18 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1MGFHk25011; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id LAA09025 for public-list; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:01:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe26.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.32.106]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09021; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:01:15 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.189.41] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Cc: "BioAstro" Subject: SETI public: CME headed towards Earth Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:01:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0016_01C1BB90.36A740A0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2002 16:01:15.0315 (UTC) FILETIME=[280A2830:01C1BBBA] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C1BB90.36A740A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: SpaceWeather.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:35 AM To: SpaceWeather.com Subject: Jupiter, the Moon, and maybe Northern Lights Space Weather News for February 21, 2002 http://www.spaceweather.com Solar activity intensified on Feb. 20th and 21st when sunspot magnetic fields erupted several times, producing a series of M-class solar flares. At least one of the eruptions also hurled a coronal mass ejection (CME) toward our planet. Sky watchers at high latitudes -- e.g., northern Europe, Canada, and across the northern tier of US states -- should be alert for Northern Lights late Friday (Feb 22) or Saturday (Feb 23) when the CME will likely sweep past Earth. Even if the incoming CME fails to ignite auroras, there will still be something remarkable to see in the sky this weekend: a close encounter between Jupiter and the Moon. Sky watchers in North America can find the eye-catching pair close together in the southeastern sky after sunset on Friday. The two will appear even closer together on Saturday morning from parts of Europe, where the Moon will pass directly in front of the giant planet. For more information about these events, and pictures of the recent Saturn-Moon occultation, please visit http://www.spaceweather.com ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C1BB90.36A740A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----- Original= Message -----
<= B>From: SpaceWeather.com
Sen= t: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:35 AM
To: SpaceWeather.com
<= B>Subject: Jupiter, the Moon, and maybe Northern Lights
&n= bsp;

Space Weather News for February 21, 2002
http://www.spac= eweather.com

Solar activity intensified on Feb. 20th and 21st when= sunspot magnetic
fields erupted several times, producing a series of = M-class solar flares.
At least one of the eruptions also hurled a coro= nal mass ejection (CME)
toward our planet.  Sky watchers at high = latitudes -- e.g., northern
Europe, Canada, and across the northern ti= er of US states -- should be
alert for Northern Lights late Friday (Fe= b 22) or Saturday (Feb 23) when
the CME will likely sweep past Earth.<= BR>
Even if the incoming CME fails to ignite auroras, there will still= be
something remarkable to see in the sky this weekend: a close encou= nter
between Jupiter and the Moon.  Sky watchers in North America= can find the
eye-catching pair close together in the southeastern sky= after sunset on
Friday.  The two will appear even closer togethe= r on Saturday morning from
parts of Europe, where the Moon will pass d= irectly in front of the giant
planet.

For more information abou= t these events, and pictures of the recent
Saturn-Moon occultation, pl= ease visit

http://www.spa= ceweather.com

 

------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C1BB90.36A740A0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Feb 25 20:44:02 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1Q4i1300403; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id XAA04161 for public-list; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:31:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from aramis.ritm.gov.ph ([203.176.9.60]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04145 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Prj04 (PRJ-04 [192.168.0.72]) by aramis.ritm.gov.ph with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id 19XT1QZP; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:37:58 +0800 Message-ID: <00bb01c1be80$56b86160$4800a8c0@Prj04> From: "Noni Cerillo" To: Subject: SETI public: Fw: Simulated signal Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:44:37 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Is it possible to get a copy of the simulated signal you guys have been talking about? I am not an expert and I do not hope to decipher the message but I'm just curious how a message from an alien civilization would look like. Thanks Noni From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Feb 26 08:03:16 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1QG3G303502; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA06237 for public-list; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:51:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe74.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.216]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06233 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:51:00 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.15.218.154] From: "Lee Kitchens" To: "Noni Cerillo" , "Public" Subject: Re: SETI public: Fw: Simulated signal Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:51:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BEA2.D3317DE0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2002 15:51:00.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[630ED1D0:01C1BEDD] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BEA2.D3317DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noni, go to www.newscientist.com. Scroll down near the bottom and see a = lot of topics to select. Select "astrobiology". Scroll down and on left= of screen see "latest articles". Click on "Alien message test human dec= oders". Look for a graphic display in all the "1's" and "0's". If we ev= er do receive a signal, it will be noise. I haven't figured out SetiFox = yet, much less how to dig a bunch of "1's" and "0's" out of noise!!! Oh = well, if it was easy, I probably would not do it! Lee, hardware. =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Noni Cerillo Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:44 PM To: public@setileague.org Subject: SETI public: Fw: Simulated signal =20 Hi all, Is it possible to get a copy of the simulated signal you guys have been talking about? I am not an expert and I do not hope to decipher the message but I'm just curious how a message from an alien civilization would look like. Thanks Noni ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BEA2.D3317DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Noni, go to www.newscientist.com.  Scr= oll down near the bottom and see a lot of topics to select.  Select = "astrobiology".  Scroll down and on left of screen see "latest artic= les".  Click on "Alien message test human decoders".  Look for = a graphic display in all the "1's" and "0's".  If we ever do&nb= sp;receive a signal, it will be noise.  I haven't figured out SetiFo= x yet, much less how to dig a bunch of "1's" and "0's" out of noise!!!&nb= sp; Oh well, if it was easy, I probably would not do it!  Lee, = hardware. 
 
----- Original Me= ssage -----
From: Noni Cerillo
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:44 PM
To: public@setileague.org
Subject: SETI public: Fw: Simulated signal
 Hi all,

Is it possible to get a copy of the simulated= signal you guys have been
talking about? I am not an expert and I do = not hope to decipher the
message but I'm just curious how a message fr= om an alien civilization
would look like. Thanks

Noni

------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1BEA2.D3317DE0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Feb 26 17:34:35 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1R1YY310011; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id UAA03318 for public-list; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:24:53 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from aramis.ritm.gov.ph ([203.176.9.60]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03314 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Prj04 (PRJ-04 [192.168.0.72]) by aramis.ritm.gov.ph with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id 19XT1SCG; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:31:33 +0800 Message-ID: <001a01c1bf2f$7720a200$4800a8c0@Prj04> From: "Noni Cerillo" To: "SETIleague" Subject: SETI public: Simulated signal Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:38:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1BF72.82359090" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1BF72.82359090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Thanks a lot! You're all very helpful.=20 Noni=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1BF72.82359090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Thanks a lot! You're all very=20 helpful. 
 
Noni 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1BF72.82359090-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 27 07:39:26 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1RFdP305887; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA12867 for public-list; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:28:27 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.32.128]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12863; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:27:53 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.186.173.232] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "setipublic" Cc: "BioAstro" Subject: SETI public: Fw: Space-Weather-Advisory Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:27:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C1BF79.682B49E0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2002 15:27:53.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[52EA0F10:01C1BFA3] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C1BF79.682B49E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: daemon@sec.noaa.gov Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:44 PM To: advisory-list-send@dawn.sec.noaa.gov Subject: Space-Weather-Advisory Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Center Boulder, Colorado, USA SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK #02- 9 2002 February 26 at 11:33 a.m. MST (2002 February 26 1833 UT) **** SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK **** Summary For February 18-24 Space weather reached moderate levels during the period. Isolated category R1 (minor) radio blackouts occurred on February 18 and 20 - 22 due to moderate-sized solar flares. A category R2 (moderate) radio blackout occurred on February 20 due to a major solar flare from the Sun's western limb. This flare also caused a brief category S1 (minor) solar radiation storm on February 20. There were no geomagnetic storms during the period. For a list of adverse system effects related to space weather, please refer to the NOAA Space Weather Scales. Outlook For February 27-March 5 Space weather is expected to be at minor levels. Isolated category R1 (minor) radio blackouts are likely. There will be a slight chance for category G1 (minor) geomagnetic storm conditions during March 4 - 5 due to an expected increase in solar wind velocities. Data used to provide space weather services are contributed by NOAA, USAF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the International Space Environment Services and other observatories, universities, and institutions. More information is available at SEC's Web site http://sec.noaa.gov or (303) 497-5127. The NOAA Public Affairs contact is Barbara McGehan at bmcgehan@boulder.noaa.gov or (303) 497-6288. ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C1BF79.682B49E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
<= DIV> 
=
----- Original Message -----
From: daemon@sec.noaa.gov
Sent: = Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:44 PM
= To: advisory-list-send@dawn.sec.noaa.gov
Subject: Space-Weather-Advisory
 
Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Ce= nter
Boulder, Colorado, USA

SPACE WEATHER OUTLOOK #02- 9
200= 2 February 26 at 11:33 a.m. MST (2002 February 26 1833 UT)

**** SP= ACE WEATHER OUTLOOK ****

Summary For February 18-24
Space weath= er reached moderate levels during the period. Isolated
category R1 (mi= nor) radio blackouts occurred on February 18 and 20 - 22
due to modera= te-sized solar flares. A category R2 (moderate) radio
blackout occurre= d on February 20 due to a major solar flare from the
Sun's western lim= b. This flare also caused a brief category S1 (minor)
solar radiation = storm on February 20. There were no geomagnetic storms
during the peri= od. For a list of adverse system effects related to
space weather, ple= ase refer to the NOAA Space Weather Scales.

Outlook For February 2= 7-March 5
Space weather is expected to be at minor levels. Isolated ca= tegory R1
(minor) radio blackouts are likely. There will be a slight c= hance for
category G1 (minor) geomagnetic storm conditions during Marc= h 4 - 5 due
to an expected increase in solar wind velocities.

D= ata used to provide space weather services are contributed by NOAA,
US= AF, NASA, NSF, USGS, the International Space Environment Services
and = other observatories, universities, and institutions. More
information = is available at SEC's Web site http://sec.noaa.gov or
(303) 497-5127.&= nbsp; The NOAA Public Affairs contact is Barbara McGehan
at bmcgehan@b= oulder.noaa.gov or (303) 497-6288.


------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C1BF79.682B49E0-- From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Feb 27 11:28:03 2002 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1RJS2316164; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id OAA23633 for public-list; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:17:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (oe124.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.117]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23560; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:15:49 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [63.186.174.230] From: "LARRY KLAES" To: "BioAstro" Cc: "setipublic" Subject: SETI public: Fw: NASA TO TRY TO CONTACT PIONEER 10 SPACECRAFT ONCE AGAIN Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:15:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1BF99.3A53B370" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2002 19:15:49.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ABE5850:01C1BFC3] Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C1BF99.3A53B370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Kellogg Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:50 PM To: lunar-update@lists.arc.nasa.gov Cc: Larry Kellogg Subject: NASA TO TRY TO CONTACT PIONEER 10 SPACECRAFT ONCE AGAIN Good day folks. Well the word is out so I can tell you we will see if we can get Pioneer 10's attention Friday and listen for a response back Saturday which will be its 30th anniversary of heading off to the stars. You can read it on the web at Ames News as well http://amesnews.arc.nasa.= gov/ Now I had better go upstairs and see if the Mac Quadra 950 is still working. Would like to store the data should we see the Geiger Tube Telescope (GTT) still working. http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/pioneer/home.html If we manage to get any data we will put it on an old Micro VAX and let the University of IOWA pull it off. What the signal to noise ratio looked like before. http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pioneer/PNStat.html If Ric Campo can get here in time to make a dummy command file, we might try and send a NO-OP command up to Pioneer 10 just to see if the command counter will toggle from FLIP to FLOP, or was that FLOP to FLIP. Ric? Better check the pieces of a PDP-11/44 and the Osp