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 <A HREF="aol://4344:30.L100clvy.349332.679436356">Click here:  07/12: AOL News: Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony</A>

I hope the above link works in email. 
If not, I will try to provide a real html address. 

John.  

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2> <A HREF="aol://4344:30.L100clvy.349332.679436356">Click here: &nbsp;07/12: AOL News: Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony</A>
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<BR>I hope the above link works in email. 
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At 04:36 PM 7/12/01 EDT, MarcusJohn@aol.com wrote:
>  07/12: AOL News: Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony 

No go, John.  Could you please post the URL?
	Thanks -- Paul
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What follows is from the AOL news clipping service. They got it from AP. 
Please consider this private for the purposes of the mail list. 



Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony

By PAUL RECER
.c The Associated Press

  
WASHINGTON (AP) - Seven years after members of Congress rejected research 
into extraterrestrial life as a search for ``little green men,'' lawmakers 
encouraged scientists in their efforts to find life beyond the Earth. 

``The discovery of life in the universe would be one of the most astounding 
discoveries in human history,'' Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said Thursday at a 
hearing of the House space science subcommittee. ``Funding should match 
public interest and I don't believe it does.'' 

Smith said that since funds for the search for extra terrestrial intelligence 
(SETI) were booted out of the federal budget in 1994, ``the SETI credibility 
has been enhanced.'' 

Four scientists appearing as witnesses said that in the last five years the 
concept that life exists beyond the Earth has been boosted by dramatic 
discoveries both on Earth and in space. 

Among the advances cited: 

At least 50 planets have been found in orbit of distant, sun-like stars in 
the last five years and researchers now believe that solar systems may be 
common through out the universe. Finding planets was considered an essential 
step toward finding life. 

``All of these planets are Jupiter-size or larger,'' said Ed Weiler, NASA's 
associate administrator for space science. ``No Earth-like planets have been 
found, but we don't yet have the technology'' to detect planets the size of 
Earth in orbit of distant stars. 

However, Weiler said that a space observatory now being built will be able to 
search for the chemical signatures of life in the atmospheres of planets up 
to 50 light years away. 

Liquid water is considered an essential chemical for the development of life 
and it has been found now on moons of Jupiter and in orbit of at least one 
distant star. Also, there is strong proof that water was once common on Mars 
and there are plans to search beneath the Martian surface for evidence of 
water, the most likely place for life on the Red Planet. 

Detailed studies of galaxies suggest that the formation of planets and solar 
systems may be common. The Hubble space telescope has captured many images of 
stars surrounded by the dust and gas clouds thought to be precursors for 
planets. 

Researchers have found bacteria that live in the coldest of salt water, in 
the deep pressure and heat of volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and 
in the most acid of environments. Since life is possible in such hostile 
environments on Earth, then it may also have developed in extreme conditions 
that may exist on other planets. 

In 1994, some members of Congress ridiculed the SETI Institute and its 
efforts to detect radio signals from alien civilizations, calling the effort 
``a search for little green men.'' 

The SETI concept fell so far out of favor that the National Science 
Foundation put a notation on its Web site that proposals for SETI research 
were not welcome. 

Christopher F. Chyba, a leader of the SETI Institute in California, said that 
since losing its congressional funding, the program has been supported by 
private donations, has about 120 employees, and is regularly searching for 
signals on two million radio channels using a major radio telescope in Puerto 
Rico. 

Chyba said SETI, in partnership with the University of California, Berkeley, 
is now building a $30 million radio telescope array that will be able to 
listen to signals from the nearest one million stars in many channels. 

And, said Chyba, the NSF has now removed its restriction on funding of SETI 
research. Proposals for SETI research now compete for funding ``on a level 
playing field'' with other research proposals, he said. 

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., said it was impressive that SETI continued to 
thrive even though federal funds were cut off, and she said the federal 
government should not be biased toward the research. 

``We need to let the federal agencies know that bias against SETI research is 
not favored,'' said Lofgren. ``No member of this committee wants bias against 
any good science.'' 

On the Net: 

NASA Science: http://www.science.nasa.gov/ 

Extra Solar planets: http://exoplanets.org/ 

AP-NY-07-12-01 1619EDT

Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news 
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>What follows is from the AOL news clipping service. They got it from AP. 
<BR>Please consider this private for the purposes of the mail list. 
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=5 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B>Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">By PAUL RECER
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B><I>.c The Associated Press
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></I>
<BR> &nbsp;
<BR>WASHINGTON (AP) - Seven years after members of Congress rejected research 
<BR>into extraterrestrial life as a search for ``little green men,'' lawmakers 
<BR>encouraged scientists in their efforts to find life beyond the Earth. 
<BR>
<BR>``The discovery of life in the universe would be one of the most astounding 
<BR>discoveries in human history,'' Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said Thursday at a 
<BR>hearing of the House space science subcommittee. ``Funding should match 
<BR>public interest and I don't believe it does.'' 
<BR>
<BR>Smith said that since funds for the search for extra terrestrial intelligence 
<BR>(SETI) were booted out of the federal budget in 1994, ``the SETI credibility 
<BR>has been enhanced.'' 
<BR>
<BR>Four scientists appearing as witnesses said that in the last five years the 
<BR>concept that life exists beyond the Earth has been boosted by dramatic 
<BR>discoveries both on Earth and in space. 
<BR>
<BR>Among the advances cited: 
<BR>
<BR>At least 50 planets have been found in orbit of distant, sun-like stars in 
<BR>the last five years and researchers now believe that solar systems may be 
<BR>common through out the universe. Finding planets was considered an essential 
<BR>step toward finding life. 
<BR>
<BR>``All of these planets are Jupiter-size or larger,'' said Ed Weiler, NASA's 
<BR>associate administrator for space science. ``No Earth-like planets have been 
<BR>found, but we don't yet have the technology'' to detect planets the size of 
<BR>Earth in orbit of distant stars. 
<BR>
<BR>However, Weiler said that a space observatory now being built will be able to 
<BR>search for the chemical signatures of life in the atmospheres of planets up 
<BR>to 50 light years away. 
<BR>
<BR>Liquid water is considered an essential chemical for the development of life 
<BR>and it has been found now on moons of Jupiter and in orbit of at least one 
<BR>distant star. Also, there is strong proof that water was once common on Mars 
<BR>and there are plans to search beneath the Martian surface for evidence of 
<BR>water, the most likely place for life on the Red Planet. 
<BR>
<BR>Detailed studies of galaxies suggest that the formation of planets and solar 
<BR>systems may be common. The Hubble space telescope has captured many images of 
<BR>stars surrounded by the dust and gas clouds thought to be precursors for 
<BR>planets. 
<BR>
<BR>Researchers have found bacteria that live in the coldest of salt water, in 
<BR>the deep pressure and heat of volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and 
<BR>in the most acid of environments. Since life is possible in such hostile 
<BR>environments on Earth, then it may also have developed in extreme conditions 
<BR>that may exist on other planets. 
<BR>
<BR>In 1994, some members of Congress ridiculed the SETI Institute and its 
<BR>efforts to detect radio signals from alien civilizations, calling the effort 
<BR>``a search for little green men.'' 
<BR>
<BR>The SETI concept fell so far out of favor that the National Science 
<BR>Foundation put a notation on its Web site that proposals for SETI research 
<BR>were not welcome. 
<BR>
<BR>Christopher F. Chyba, a leader of the SETI Institute in California, said that 
<BR>since losing its congressional funding, the program has been supported by 
<BR>private donations, has about 120 employees, and is regularly searching for 
<BR>signals on two million radio channels using a major radio telescope in Puerto 
<BR>Rico. 
<BR>
<BR>Chyba said SETI, in partnership with the University of California, Berkeley, 
<BR>is now building a $30 million radio telescope array that will be able to 
<BR>listen to signals from the nearest one million stars in many channels. 
<BR>
<BR>And, said Chyba, the NSF has now removed its restriction on funding of SETI 
<BR>research. Proposals for SETI research now compete for funding ``on a level 
<BR>playing field'' with other research proposals, he said. 
<BR>
<BR>Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., said it was impressive that SETI continued to 
<BR>thrive even though federal funds were cut off, and she said the federal 
<BR>government should not be biased toward the research. 
<BR>
<BR>``We need to let the federal agencies know that bias against SETI research is 
<BR>not favored,'' said Lofgren. ``No member of this committee wants bias against 
<BR>any good science.'' 
<BR>
<BR>On the Net: 
<BR>
<BR>NASA Science: http://www.science.nasa.gov/ 
<BR>
<BR>Extra Solar planets: http://exoplanets.org/ 
<BR>
<BR>AP-NY-07-12-01 1619EDT
<BR>
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WASHINGTON (AP) - In a glimpse of the ultimate fate of the solar
system, astronomers have found that the blazing death of a
distant star is melting its orbiting icy comets and creating a
cloud of water vapor. Astronomers at a news conference Wednesday
said that the finding, by an orbiting observatory, strengthens
the theory that there may be life-supporting planets elsewhere
in the universe. Gary Melnick of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center
for Astrophysics said the star, called CW Leonis, is "the
perfect laboratory for dissecting a dying solar system." Melnick
said the discovery marks the first time a solar-system type of
water cloud has been found around a star other than the sun. He
said that since water is considered essential for biological
activity, the discovery boosts the idea that planets orbiting
other stars may harbor life.

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Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc.
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Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA
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This is a humble apology.

I recently posted a copyrighted article to the list. 

I thought it was fair use, comparable to passing an article around to 
colleagues. I clearly posted the sources, etc.

Others have a different opinion. One suggestion was to re-write it. That 
would have been the same as copying it, as it clearly states at the bottom 
that re-writing it is a violation just the same. 

The author was Paul Recer. He is a staff science writer for AP. I am 
attempting to locate his email or web site. I am unsuccessful at this time. 

Ap also has a way to purchase copy licenses. I will attempt to purchase some 
licences for my posting. 

I humbly request that anyone who has a copy of my email please delete it at 
your first convienence. 

I mostly profoundly and humbly apologize for my indiscretion. 

If Paul Recer receives this email via the list, please email me for a 
personal apology. I intended no harm. 

And I apologise to all of you whose bandwith I have wasted with this. 

Thank you all for your time. 

John Marcus

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>This is a humble apology.
<BR>
<BR>I recently posted a copyrighted article to the list. 
<BR>
<BR>I thought it was fair use, comparable to passing an article around to 
<BR>colleagues. I clearly posted the sources, etc.
<BR>
<BR>Others have a different opinion. One suggestion was to re-write it. That 
<BR>would have been the same as copying it, as it clearly states at the bottom 
<BR>that re-writing it is a violation just the same. 
<BR>
<BR>The author was Paul Recer. He is a staff science writer for AP. I am 
<BR>attempting to locate his email or web site. I am unsuccessful at this time. 
<BR>
<BR>Ap also has a way to purchase copy licenses. I will attempt to purchase some 
<BR>licences for my posting. 
<BR>
<BR>I humbly request that anyone who has a copy of my email please delete it at 
<BR>your first convienence. 
<BR>
<BR>I mostly profoundly and humbly apologize for my indiscretion. 
<BR>
<BR>If Paul Recer receives this email via the list, please email me for a 
<BR>personal apology. I intended no harm. 
<BR>
<BR>And I apologise to all of you whose bandwith I have wasted with this. 
<BR>
<BR>Thank you all for your time. 
<BR>
<BR>John Marcus</FONT></HTML>

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Here is a web page with the news story I posted before. Please feel free to 
read it without any copyright issues. 

Please remember to try to delete the copy I emailed out before. 

The URL is: 

http://www.hrtide.com/shared/news/ap/ap_story.html/Washington/AP.V7953.AP-Life

-Out-There.html

Thanks everyone

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Here is a web page with the news story I posted before. Please feel free to 
<BR>read it without any copyright issues. 
<BR>
<BR>Please remember to try to delete the copy I emailed out before. 
<BR>
<BR>The URL is: 
<BR>
<BR>http://www.hrtide.com/shared/news/ap/ap_story.html/Washington/AP.V7953.AP-Life
<BR>
<BR>-Out-There.html
<BR>
<BR>Thanks everyone
<BR>
<BR>John Marcus </FONT></HTML>

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SETIzens,
	This past week I had the pleasure of attending the 20th Anniversary
Conference of the Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers, at NRAO Green Bank
WV.  It was a pleasure seeing about two dozen of you there.  For the rest,
I offer this visual recap:
	<http://www.setileague.org/press/sarapix.htm>.
	I am pleased to report that I was elected to the SARA Board of Directors
on Tuesday, so look forward to forging even closer ties between SARA and
The SETI League.  Perhaps you can plan to attend next year's SARA
Conference, 14-17 July 2002 (and, of course, our own SETICon02 on 26-28
April 2002).
	Yours for SETI success,
	Paul
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H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS    
Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc.
433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555
Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA
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----- Forwarded message from Alex Barnett -----

From: Alex Barnett <alexb@spacecentre.co.uk>

The following evening event is being held at the new UK National Space
Centre in Leicester.  If you are interested, why not consider coming
to the Centre for the day and stay on for the evening event?  Places
are filling up fast, so please do book soon.

"An Evening with an Alien Hunter"

Featuring Dr Seth Shostak, 
SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) Institute, 
Mountain View, California.

Thursday 2nd August
7.30pm until 9.30pm
National Space Centre Space Theatre.

"What are the chances of life in the universe,
what could it be like and how might we find it?"

There will be a short break for refreshments followed by an
opportunity for question and answers and debate on the subject after
the lecture.

* Tickets for this event are £10 and need to be booked in advance.
* Call  0116 258 2111  or drop in to the Space Centre.
* Space is limited to 160! The price includes interval refreshments
* Doors open for ticketed guests at 7.00pm. 
* A bar will be available.

Dr Seth Shostak is Public Programmes Scientist for the SETI Institute
where he works on Project Phoenix, listening for signals from the
cosmos. He is an accomplished public speaker, well known for his
humour and ability to make the subject accessible and the time fly
by. For further background information on SETI or the Space Centre go
to www.seti.org and www.spacecentre.co.uk

----- End of forwarded message from Alex Barnett -----

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H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS    
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> 
> Thursday 2nd August
> 7.30pm until 9.30pm
> National Space Centre Space Theatre.

Leicester is a bit far for me, but it would otherwise have been useful
to know the level at which this is going to be pitched (i.e. what
is the expected audience).

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I suggest that all of you read the book, "The Creator and the Cosmos by Hugh 
McGregor Ross. It offers an interesting and very convincing perspective on 
the mysteries and facts of the universe.

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Sean C.
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http://setisociey.8m.com
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UniSci is reporting that the first positive identification of
extraterrestrial microbial life was reported on Sunday (July 29) at
the Astrobiology session of the 46th Annual SPIE meeting in San Diego,
by Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe of Cardiff University in Wales. He
spoke on behalf of an international team led by Professor Jayant
Narlikar, Director of the Inter-Universities Center for Astronomy and
Astrophysics in Pune, India.

The complete story can be found at
http://unisci.com/stories/20013/0730011.htm

_DHMS


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SETIzens,
	I have noticed that lately quite a few posts to the various Lists have
been bouncing.  This serves as a reminder that NO attachments are allowed
to The SETI League email lists.  In addition, messages must be kept brief,
as our server can only handle messages of 40,000 characters or less.
Thanks for your cooperation.
	Yours for SETI success,
	Paul
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H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS    
Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc.
433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555
Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA
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n6tx@setileague.org   www.setileague.org
Project Argus station FN11LH

"We Know We're Not Alone!"

