From Obsid@Sentry.net Wed Jun 6 14:28:59 2001 Received: from Sentry.net (e.arg [192.168.1.50]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56LSxT32094 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: duh Message-ID: <3B1E4255.40F69F36@Sentry.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:46:45 +0000 From: Steve Organization: Sentry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: setiarchive@Sentry.net Subject: TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TEST From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Jun 6 15:18:57 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56MIpT01122; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA17073 for public-list; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:08:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17009; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f56M6vo16841; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: Cc: Subject: SETI public: SETI League review of Life Everywhere Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:09:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c0eed5$5b7123c0$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk http://www.setileague.org/articles/everywhr.htm Book Review: Life Everywhere reviewed by Albert A. Harrison, Ph.D. University of California, Davis aaharrison@ucdavis.edu Life Everywhere: The Maverick Science of Astrobiology by David Darling New York, Basic Books, 2001 [ISBN 0465015638, 206 pages, $26.00] The parade of new books on astrobiology and SETI continues. Which of these new offerings add substantially to the pre-existing literature base? The first way a new book can contribute is by broadening and deepening the knowledge of people who are already versed in the search for life on other worlds. The second way a book can contribute is as a useful introduction for people who have little or no background in astrobiology. Although it may seem that these two goals are mutually exclusive, David Darling’s remarkable new book, Life Everywhere, should appeal to both seasoned veterans and the general public. The key to this achievement is a very generous helping of fresh, up-to-date material coupled with superb organization, a conversational writing style, and the lavish use of anecdotes and examples that make potentially difficult material understandable and engaging. Veterans will discover that Life Everywhere takes us way beyond the usual tales of finding Jupiter-sized planets and mashing up Martian meteorites. In a clear, concise, and orderly fashion this book strengthens almost every term in the Drake Equation. For example, Darling describes how, rather than narrowing the search for the origin of life, astrobiologists keep finding new ways that life may have begun. He tells us how to identify promising stars, and warns that the usual discussions of habitable zones may be unnecessarily limited. Life Everywhere unveils emerging technologies that will allow astronomers to identify Earth-like planets in other solar systems, and then monitor chemical processes that we would expect if simple forms of life evolved there. SETI League members are sure to enjoy his provocative analysis of the “Rare Earth” hypothesis, and his chance discovery of how pre-Copernican thinking may influence contemporary astronomy. Life Everywhere is a great book for initiating friends and relatives into the mysteries of astrobiology. Do you have an aunt who gets a headache trying to think about planets or moons in orbit? Darling will ask her to visualize a dinner plate with a helping of mashed potatoes in the center and a used stick of chewing gum whizzing around the rim! Do you have an adolescent son who can’t get into science? He may be thrilled by Darling’s discussion of the formidable survival skills of life forms such as Conan the Bacterium. Although upbeat and [at least when it comes to other worlds] definitely pro life, Darling is a careful scientist who explores both sides of important issues and carefully separates hypothesis from fact. His discussion of panspermia is a good example of his even-handed treatment of controversial topics. No book accomplishes everything, and while Life Everywhere is definitely multidisciplinary we still await discussions of how the social sciences and humanities might contribute to astrobiology. Shortly after Life Everywhere was published there appeared a spate of negative reviews on the Internet. To me, these reviews said more about the anonymous authors’ politics than about the qualities of Dr. Darling’s new book. Some of these commentators seemed to favor creation science over evolution, and some preferred new-age thinking to scientific procedures. After 400 years, the Copernican Revolution continues, and the ability of Life Everywhere to outrage pre-Copernican thinkers is much to Dr. Darling’s credit. From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Jun 6 15:29:53 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56MTkT01133; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA17717 for public-list; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:20:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17695; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f56MK2v19043; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: Cc: "BioAstro \(E-mail\)" , "META \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: Shades of Cyclops Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:22:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c0eed7$2f31dc30$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Big telescope opportunities for South Australia http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=5075 From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Jun 6 15:32:36 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56MWST16239; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA18008 for public-list; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17980; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f56MPLv19977; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: Cc: "BioAstro \(E-mail\)" , "META \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: OH megamasers: Natural galactic radio beacons Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:27:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c0eed7$ed79dda0$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk Cornell astronomers use the Arecibo Observatory to reveal radio beacons, called OH megamasers, that yield galactic clues: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=5076 Early results from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey: From under our nose to the edge of the Universe: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=5077 From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Jun 6 16:46:19 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56NkBT09433; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id TAA21529 for public-list; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:40:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21523; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office (1Cust164.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net [63.38.190.164]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25570; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010606193743.00e0fadc@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:37:43 -0400 To: Daniel Boyd Fox , MarcusJohn@aol.com From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: Re: SETI public: Re: PROSPECTS FOR THE SEARCH FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE Cc: public@setileague.org, rcf@setileague.org In-Reply-To: References: <88.78e5815.284fabb7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk At 02:17 PM 6/6/01 -0500, Daniel Boyd Fox wrote: >As I recall Robert L. >Forward wrote a novel about this called TIME MASTER. Yes, but he is also responsible for writing what has become known as Forward's Law: 'Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.' (Prompting Shuch's Corrollary, which I have shared with Bob: "Never let a good story get in the way of the facts.') >We have all read about Fermi's paradox, consider what would happen if a >Of course if the FTL travel required equipment at both ends then the time >travel could go no further back than the existence of the equipment. This reminds one of the premise stated in the intro to every episode of the 'Quantum Leap' TV series. Not remembering it verbatim, I'll paraphrase: "Recognizing that time travel is possible anywhere within his lifetime, Dr. Sam Beckett steps into the Quantum Accelerator -- and disappears." Now, I've watched most of those episodes, and don't remember Sam ever traveling forward in time. Since he can travel to anywhere within his lifetime, I conclude that when he stepped into the accelerator, he died. How's that for getting off-topic? ;-) -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Wed Jun 6 17:24:02 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f570NpT27034; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id UAA23121 for public-list; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:13:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from djwhome.demon.co.uk (root@djwhome.demon.co.uk [158.152.19.5]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23111 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by djwhome.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f56LREl05828 for public@setileague.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:27:14 +0100 From: David Woolley Message-Id: <200106062127.f56LREl05828@djwhome.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: SETI public: Re: PROSPECTS FOR THE SEARCH FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE To: public@setileague.org Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:27:14 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <88.78e5815.284fabb7@aol.com> from "MarcusJohn@aol.com" at Jun 06, 2001 11:52:23 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk > I don't think that FTL travel can make you go back in time. What it can do FTL travel viewed from one point of view is actually backwards in time travel from the point of view of some other observers. That's one of the consequences of special relativity. I'm not sure that it allows the grand father paradox, because of the need to close the circuit, but it does cause causality violations - light travel time corrected effect (arrival) precedes light travel time corrected cause (departure). > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" 35 lines of pseudo-HTML deleted. From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Jun 11 14:48:40 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5BLmdn32193; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id RAA16014 for public-list; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16006; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office (1Cust149.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net [63.38.190.149]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21550; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010611170642.00697754@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:06:42 -0400 To: n6tx@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: electronics equipment for sale Cc: rcf@setileague.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk SETIzens, One of our volunteer Regional Coordinators has experienced a change of employment, and consequently wishes to sell her VERY EXTENSIVE collection of electronics test equipment. Much of what she has available is most suitable for use in a ham or SETI station, or advanced experimenter's lab. She also has a ten meter diameter (that's METERS, not FEET!) commercial dish, with mount, L and S band feeds and cassegrain subreflector, all disassembled and transportable by container to just about anywhere in the US (though probably at non-trivial shipping costs). If interested in any of this, email me and I will send you her email address, and an Excel spreadsheet (31 kByte file) of her available gear. Cheers -- Paul -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 12 07:21:06 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5CEL5n00767; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA03011 for public-list; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:00:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03001 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5CE00009033 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: Subject: SETI public: "Are there other universes out there?" - an interview with Rod Davies, astronomer Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:02:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0f348$568b0480$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk From: science.webmaster@esa.int [mailto:science.webmaster@esa.int] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: "Are there other universes out there?" - an interview with Rod Davies, astronomer The third in the Planck series of ‘Interviews with prominent scientists’ is published today. In it, Rod Davies reflects on his long career as a cosmologist, and considers future prospects in the field. Read the interview at: http://sci.esa.int/content/doc/ef/27119_.htm Planck is an ESA mission which aims to find out how the Universe began, or at least to bring us much closer to understanding how it all started. The ‘Interviews with prominent scientists’ section on the Planck web site aims to explain what is currently known (and not known) about the beginning of the Universe by means of interviews with experts in the field of cosmology. Previous interview are at: http://sci.esa.int/structure/content/index.cfm?aid=17&cid=3511 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 12 15:01:07 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5CM16n18431; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id RAA23927 for public-list; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:37:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23917 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5CLaq009555 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: "Setipublic \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: Are We Alone in the Milky Way Galaxy? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:39:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c0f388$26a6c7a0$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk One of the most challenging mysteries facing mankind is this: Are we alone in this vast galaxy in which we find ourselves, or are there other technological civilizations in other star systems? We concern ourselves with technologically-advanced civilizations, for these are the ones which we could conceivably make contact with, either by radio or starship. Is there anyone else with whom we share the tool-using experience, or is our situation unique? The study which is called SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) is plagued by two disturbing puzzles. One is this: If the galaxy is an inhabited place, then why have increasingly-sophisticated attempts to discover the radio transmissions of other races been, thus far, unsuccessful? Why the Great Silence? The other has been called the Fermi Paradox (most simply, "Why aren't they here?"). http://members.aol.com/howiecombs/alone.htm From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 12 16:41:30 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5CNfRn10302; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id TAA28835 for public-list; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:23:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28831 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5CNMt023341 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: "Setipublic \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: The Universe: Still Boggling the Minds of Finite Creatures Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:25:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0f396$f986aa10$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk The Universe: Still Boggling the Minds of Finite Creatures There may be nothing more mind-boggling than the Universe. Imagine -- we're halfway through 2001, in the heart of the Information Age, nearly 400 years after the telescope was invented, and we don't yet know how big the big house is nor what, if anything, lies beyond. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/universe_overview_010605-1.h tml From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Jun 15 12:54:06 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5FJs6n25700; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id PAA27594 for public-list; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:36:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27580; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5FJZL016530; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: "Setipublic \(E-mail\)" Cc: "BioAstro \(E-mail\)" , "META \(E-mail\)" , "Icepick \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: In Search of Alien Lasers Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0f5d2$a0a9be30$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk In Search of Alien Lasers Could galactic civilizations be pulsing our planet with high-powered lasers? The idea of communicating with flashes of light may sound archaic, conjuring up visions of cowboys signaling with hand-held mirrors or sailors wielding ship-to-ship telegraphs. http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_shostak_lasers_010614.html From owner-public@setileague.org Fri Jun 15 15:02:17 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5FM2Gn21892; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id RAA04258 for public-list; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:54:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from bag-1.mail.digex.net (bag-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.99.100]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04248; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LARRYLAPTOP ([216.2.143.25]) by bag-1.mail.digex.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5FLre020296; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Larry Klaes" To: "Setipublic \(E-mail\)" Cc: "Setivolcor \(E-mail\)" Subject: SETI public: University of Washington Astrobiology Conference Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c0f5e5$f2438100$4200a8c0@LARRYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk University of Washington Astrobiology Conference Sun.-Wed., 5-8 August 2001 -- Crystal Mountain, Washington The University of Washington's Center for Astrobiology and Early Evolution is hosting an exciting conference at the dawn of the new field of Astrobiology. The purpose of this conference is to bring together experts to discuss Astrobiology's fundamental principles, past accomplishments, latest scientific results, and future research and technological directions. Rather than the usual proceedings, the conference will produce a graduate student level textbook invaluable to the overall development of the field: Astrobiology: The University of Washington Lectures. The book will be a high-level, interdisciplinary introduction to the origin and evolution of life on Earth, the geological, physical and chemical conditions that have spawned and sustained life, and the detection of extant and extinct life on other planets and moons. http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=5166 From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 19 07:53:07 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5JEr6S26709; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id KAA09412 for public-list; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09398; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office (1Cust242.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net [63.38.190.242]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA14618; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010619103715.00e8be14@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:15 -0400 To: rcf@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: BBC coverage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk SETIzens, Our own Jenny Bailey, VolCor for England, was just interviewed for BBC World (see ). Keep up the good work, Jenny! -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!" From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 19 11:15:31 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5JIFUS11270; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id OAA19081 for public-list; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from mail.vol.net.mt (mail.vol.net.mt [212.56.128.202]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19077 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vol.net.mt ([212.56.130.177]) by mail.vol.net.mt (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-65110U6000L600S0V35) with ESMTP id mt for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:58:53 +0200 Message-ID: <3B2F9389.637BDD40@vol.net.mt> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:01:46 +0200 From: Alex Michael Bonnici Reply-To: albonnici@vol.net.mt Organization: Video On Line X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "public@setileague.org" Subject: SETI public: Orion Roils Planetary Debate Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------809471D3AB9BA1FDD0EBCDEF" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk --------------809471D3AB9BA1FDD0EBCDEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gang, There is a great article in yesterday's Washington Post entitled "Orion Roils Planetary Debate" concerning the light this nebula throws on planetary formation. There is also a great movie of an imaginary fly-through of the Orion Nebula. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10693-2001Jun16.html Alex Michael Bonnici http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8505 --------------809471D3AB9BA1FDD0EBCDEF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
Hello Gang,
            There is a great article in yesterday's Washington Post entitled "Orion Roils
Planetary Debate" concerning the light this nebula throws on planetary formation. There is
also a great movie of an imaginary fly-through of the Orion Nebula.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10693-2001Jun16.html

Alex Michael Bonnici

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8505 --------------809471D3AB9BA1FDD0EBCDEF-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 19 11:20:53 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5JIKqS05555; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id OAA19245 for public-list; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:05:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from mail.vol.net.mt (mail.vol.net.mt [212.56.128.202]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19241 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vol.net.mt ([212.56.130.177]) by mail.vol.net.mt (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-65110U6000L600S0V35) with ESMTP id mt; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:02:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3B2F944D.86418F2E@vol.net.mt> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:05:09 +0200 From: Alex Michael Bonnici Reply-To: albonnici@vol.net.mt Organization: Video On Line X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ACC List , The News From Bootes , Towards 2001 and Beyond , "public@setileague.org" Subject: SETI public: Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CAB3DA4A1FBDD0150FE7D455" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk --------------CAB3DA4A1FBDD0150FE7D455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gang, There is a very interesting article in today's Space.com entitled "Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth" concerning the dangers Super Nova explosions could pose for life on Earth. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/gammaray_bursts_010522-1.html Alex --------------CAB3DA4A1FBDD0150FE7D455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
 

Hello Gang,
        There is a very interesting article in today's Space.com entitled
"Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth" concerning the dangers Super Nova explosions could pose for life on Earth.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/gammaray_bursts_010522-1.html
 

Alex
 
  --------------CAB3DA4A1FBDD0150FE7D455-- From owner-public@setileague.org Tue Jun 19 15:11:31 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5JMBVS18764; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA00476 for public-list; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:00:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from djwhome.demon.co.uk (root@djwhome.demon.co.uk [158.152.19.5]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00472 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by djwhome.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5JLHQT07864 for public@setileague.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:17:26 +0100 From: David Woolley Message-Id: <200106192117.f5JLHQT07864@djwhome.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: SETI public: Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth To: public@setileague.org Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:17:25 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <3B2F944D.86418F2E@vol.net.mt> from "Alex Michael Bonnici" at Jun 19, 2001 08:05:09 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk > "Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth" concerning the > dangers Super Nova explosions could pose for life on Earth. If you look on groups.google.com in one of the seti newsgroups you will see statements by some of the researchers at Berkeley indicating that the risk are somewhat overstated (although I don't know the range to which this article refers. Short term, the main risk factor in the civilisation lifetime in the Drake equation is self destruction. Short to medium term, it is probably an asteroid or comet strike. Very long term, I believe the Adromeda galaxy may collide with ours. > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Pseudo HTML duplicate deleted. From owner-public@setileague.org Mon Jun 25 15:43:15 2001 Received: from seti1.setileague.org ([204.176.91.10]) by Sentry.net (8.11.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5PMhES28871; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) id SAA26855 for public-list; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:25:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seti1.setileague.org: majordom set sender to owner-public@seti1.setileague.org using -f Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by seti1.setileague.org (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26801; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office (1Cust213.tnt3.loyalsock.pa.da.uu.net [63.38.190.213]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA08413; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010625182411.00e49210@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: drseti@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:24:11 -0400 To: rcf@setileague.org From: "Dr. H. Paul Shuch" Subject: SETI public: Cliff Pickover discussion list Cc: CLIFF@watson.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-public@setileague.org Precedence: bulk SETIzens, Author Cliff Pickover, a SETI League member, has started a new email group for discussions relating to the many interesting scientific topics mentioned in his various books. If you are looking for stimulating email conversations, I invite you to explore: . I must remind you, however, that regardless of how interesting you find your conversations with Dr. Pickover and his friends, The SETI League discourages cross-posting to its Lists. (I may, however, from time to time summarize here the discussions taking place there.) Yours for SETI success, Paul -------------------------------- H. Paul Shuch, Ph.D., CFII, FBIS Executive Director, The SETI League, Inc. 433 Liberty Street, PO Box 555 Little Ferry NJ 07643 USA voice (201) 641-1770; fax (201) 641-1771 n6tx@setileague.org www.setileague.org Project Argus station FN11LH "We Know We're Not Alone!"