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Artificial Extraterrestrial Radio Signal Detected in Australia?

Hello Gang,
          Yesterday I received word via the Sagan e-mail forum
(reprinted below) I belong to that there was an unconfirmed report in
the French press (http://spacenews.geoman.net/flash.html) that an
Artificial Extraterrestrial Radio Signal was detected by Australia's
Parkes Radio Observatory. Here are the links concerned. There is also a
Real Media web cast connected to this report this at the following Link:
http://spacenews.geoman.net/flash/parkes/parkes.html report

In my opinion it was than likely a hoax or a misunderstanding. That
would be too good to be true.

Especially right on schedule for the 33rd anniversary of the film
release of the motion picture 2001 back in April, 1968. The first space
tourist and the detection of the first evidence of an Extraterrestrial
Civilization both happening in the year 2001 would indeed be a very,
very interesting and wonderful coincidence.

Something similar happened back in October 1998 very close to the 60th
anniversary of the famous
Orson Welles "Martian Invasion" radio broadcast of  October 30th, 1938.
It was reported that a
British Amateur Radio Astronomer had detected a radio signal from space
of possible
Extraterrestrial Origin. But, alas it was a hoax.

When I saw that report at 5:00 AM yesterday morning it gave a jolt that
not even 2001 cups of
coffee could ever give me. But these reports have not appeared on any
other major news group. Any one here know anything about any of this?


Yours truly,

Alex

Here is the original message:

Hi friends!


    I knew this morning an observatory received a POSSIBLE signal
extraterrestrial!!!  You can know more in this
web site: http://212.74.180.17/lapremiere/parkes/index.htm   In next
days, I will follow carefully one notice that
could be the most important for HUMANITY or not... we will see and know
possible this week!!

And one note in French:

Un signal apparemment artificiel, mais de toute évidence d'origine
extra-terrestre, aurait été reçu ce matin
vers 06:30 (heure suisse) par l'observatoire de Parkes. L'information
provient de Diane Care, correspondante
permanente de la Radio Suisse Romande en Australie.

A HUG.

Jorge Almeida
http://www.anoa.pt/ceu - The sky at your fingertips



"A Terra é o berço da Humanidade, que não pode viver eternamente no seu
berço"
Tsiolkovsky, Konstantin Eduardovich (1857-1935)



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Artificial Extraterrestrial Radio Signal Detected in Australia?

Hello Gang,
          Yesterday I received word via the Sagan e-mail forum
(reprinted below) I belong to that there was an unconfirmed report in
the French press (http://spacenews.geoman.net/flash.html) that an
Artificial Extraterrestrial Radio Signal was detected by Australia's
Parkes Radio Observatory. Here are the links concerned. There is also a
Real Media web cast connected to this report this at the following Link:

http://spacenews.geoman.net/flash/parkes/parkes.html report

In my opinion it was than likely a hoax or a misunderstanding. That
would be too good to be true.

Especially right on schedule for the 33rd anniversary of the film
release of the motion picture 2001 back in April, 1968. The first space
tourist and the detection of the first evidence of an Extraterrestrial
Civilization both happening in the year 2001 would indeed be a very,
very interesting and wonderful coincidence.

Something similar happened back in October 1998 very close to the 60th
anniversary of the famous
Orson Welles "Martian Invasion" radio broadcast of  October 30th, 1938.
It was reported that a
British Amateur Radio Astronomer had detected a radio signal from space
of possible
Extraterrestrial Origin. But, alas it was a hoax.

When I saw that report at 5:00 AM yesterday morning it gave a jolt that
not even 2001 cups of
coffee could ever give me. But these reports have not appeared on any
other major news group. Any one here know anything about any of this?


Yours truly,

Alex

Here is the original message:

Hi friends!


    I knew this morning an observatory received a POSSIBLE signal
extraterrestrial!!!  You can know more in this
web site: http://212.74.180.17/lapremiere/parkes/index.htm   In next
days, I will follow carefully one notice that
could be the most important for HUMANITY or not... we will see and know
possible this week!!

And one note in French:

Un signal apparemment artificiel, mais de toute évidence d'origine
extra-terrestre, aurait été reçu ce matin
vers 06:30 (heure suisse) par l'observatoire de Parkes. L'information
provient de Diane Care, correspondante
permanente de la Radio Suisse Romande en Australie.

A HUG.

Jorge Almeida
http://www.anoa.pt/ceu - The sky at your fingertips



"A Terra é o berço da Humanidade, que não pode viver eternamente no seu
berço"
Tsiolkovsky, Konstantin Eduardovich (1857-1935)





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Hi,

This signal is
1) a hoax made by two students
2) an "experiment" (education, sociology, and so on...)
3) a commercial operation to promote a festival:
http://www.unige.ch/festival-science-et-cite/index.php3

All I know is that one month ago two students contacted the SETI
Institute for a broadcast about SETI protocoles on the Radio Suisse
Romande (RSR) next saturday. I don't know if they explained what they
wanted to do or if they ask for any authorization. 

If the "joke" had staid on the context of the festival and for the
people listening to this small radio, it could have been a good thing.
They are building a scenario of "after contact", with interview of a UN
respresentative, of unknown scientists or the (unknown) official
"Parkes" speaker.

I wonder why an other web site (geoman) relayed the info. But I saw on
the fr.sci.astronomie forum that the site will close soon. It seems just
a way of having visitors (and money) for a "dead" enterprise.

It's not the first time extraterrestrials are used to promote a
magazine, a radio, etc... You can say I'm paranoïc but I wonder if this
couldn't be just another attack against SETI of our "famous" sociologist
Pierre Lagrange (specialist of Roswell and Keneth Arnold). Why? He
participates in the festival in a conference about "who will be
extraterrestrial spokesman. He likes April fools (he wrote an article
about the moon being an artificial ET artefact in two magazines last
year). He really knows SETI and protocoles but refuse all that seems
scientific or technical (The last article of him that I read was in the
newspaper Liberation. It was a critic of SETI and of all the sciences
that the general public can't understand. I wonder how someone could
write things like "nobody has seen a scientific fact with his eyes"). 

There is absolutely no technical data about Parkes and the "famous"
signal in the RSR website. Even the worst sci-fi novels are more
precise! They present a drawing of a lake near Geneva has beeing "the
message" but there's nothing else...

On the other side, Pierre Lagrange is a sociologist. So why would he
encourage such a thing? It seems very stupid not to have taken into
account the fact that the news will spread on the internet and that very
few people will understand the context or listen to the broadcast about
SETI protocoles. He knows what a rumour is and how it works. 

Elisabeth
http://www.chez.com/telescope/

_____________________
An other precision: suiss people have a very strange sense of humour :-)



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Hello Gang,
              For something that appears to be a Hoax, it appears to be
a rather expensive and elaborate hoax! Just check out the following web
site http://212.74.180.17/lapremiere/parkes/2/index.htm

Its fantastic and well executed.

Alex


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Hello Eugene,
                Don't you mean every star would shift to ultraviolet. If
this wavefront were heading our way wouldn't we see a blue shift.

Alex

Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de wrote:

> Jeff Bone wrote:
>
> > To Alex:  dammit, man, don't get our hopes up! ;-)
>
> Hope? A genuine SETI blip would have wrecked about 95% of my world view.
> My version of an alien "signal" would be (almost) every star shifting
> into infrared in one hemisphere. This would herald that we would
> have only a few years (max) to live, until the pioneer front would hit
> us, and pretty much walks all over this place.


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NASA Science News for May 3, 2001

Last week NASA received a weak signal from Pioneer 10, twice as far=20
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well-traveled spacecraft is currently exploring the outer heliosphere, =
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soon it will take on a new job: ambassador to the stars.


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"If there really is extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere beyond
our planet, it doesn't seem to be all that anxious to be discovered. For
decades now, scientists and ET enthusiasts have been keeping an ear open =
to
the heavens, expecting to pick up some clue, perhaps a television
program, or more likely a radio beacon used for interstellar navigation,
that would tell us he, she or it is out there. But so far, zilch. No
deliberate effort to contact us. No slip of the tongue that we might
overhear. Nothing. The latest disappointment comes from scientists who
suggest that if ET is out there, he may be having a tough time finding
a suitable abode. The research suggests there may be far fewer places =
out
there - planets like our Earth - that could harbor life than we had
thought."

--Lee Dye, ABC News, 3 May 2001

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scientists=20
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fewer places=20
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Planetary Society and Cosmos Studios Mark SETI@home's 3 Million =
Milestone

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=3D4735


SETI@home will gain its 3 millionth participant by next week -- just in
time for its second birthday. They will celebrate by awarding a prize to
the three-millionth user to run the SETI@home program. The largest
distributed computing experiment ever undertaken, this University of
California, Berkeley project uses a computer program that analyzes
scientific data while acting as a screen-saver on personal computers.

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And if they are really out there and don't want to send us a fax ? There is
always this possibility.


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"If there really is extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere beyond
our planet, it doesn't seem to be all that anxious to be discovered. For
decades now, scientists and ET enthusiasts have been keeping an ear open to
the heavens, expecting to pick up some clue, perhaps a television
program, or more likely a radio beacon used for interstellar navigation,
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deliberate effort to contact us. No slip of the tongue that we might
overhear. Nothing. The latest disappointment comes from scientists who
suggest that if ET is out there, he may be having a tough time finding
a suitable abode. The research suggests there may be far fewer places out
there - planets like our Earth - that could harbor life than we had
thought."

--Lee Dye, ABC News, 3 May 2001

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DyeHard/Dyehard.html


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Why they do this? To show them selfs on the TV ? Damn


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>
> Hello Gang,
>               For something that appears to be a Hoax, it appears to be
> a rather expensive and elaborate hoax! Just check out the following web
> site http://212.74.180.17/lapremiere/parkes/2/index.htm
>
> Its fantastic and well executed.
>
> Alex


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At 10:58 PM 5/10/01 -0500, DJAGUSTIN wrote:
>   hello, i just write to ask a question, my wife told  me that six months
>ago she saw a documental on tv and they said that you all  received an
>extra-terrestrial signal several time ago, 

	I'm sorry to disappoint you, but no SETI project has yet received any
confirmed signals of intelligent extraterrestrial origin.  When we do, you
can be sure you will read about it in every credible newspaper in the
world! (Meanwhile, don't believe everything you read in the tabloids, or
see on TV.)  For a look at the kinds of signals we *have* received, please
see <http://www.setileague.org/photos/hits.htm>.
	Thanks for your interest in SETI.
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Subject: SETI public: NeoGenesis: How Scientists Are CreatingAlternate Life Forms!
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Hello Gang,
             There is a fantastic article on Space.com entitled "
Engineering ET:  The Path to Alternate Life Forms" concerning
NeoGenesis:. This is a field in which scientists are creating alternate
life forms that are based on alternative amino acids, the ones not
commonly used by life on Earth.

This line of research is directed towards understanding alternative
biochemistries and the possible evolutionary paths taken elsewhere in
the Universe.

Check out the article at the following URL:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/neogenesis_scitues_010501-1.html


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Subject: SETI public: Italian Researchers Find Traces of Life in Meteorites
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Hello Gang ,
            Here is a news report from Space Daily about a group of
Italian researchers who claim to have found  traces of life in
meteorites:

 http://www.spacedaily.com/news/010510014102.tc9rjtea.html

Alex

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Here is a news report from Space Daily about a group of Italian researchers
who claim to have found&nbsp; traces of life in meteorites:</b><b></b>
<p><b>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.spacedaily.com/news/010510014102.tc9rjtea.html">http://www.spacedaily.com/news/010510014102.tc9rjtea.html</A></b>
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SETIzens,
	Last night's website update erroneously listed the Dayton Hamvention SETI
Breakfast for the morning of 18 May 2001.  The correct date is in fact 19
May.  Sorry about the error; I'll correct the website.
	Thanks to Dan Fox for once again organizing this gathering.  I regret that
I will be unable to attend, but encourage you to be there!
	Cheers -- Paul
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Subject: SETI public: Request for amateurs to monitor exoplanet transits of Gliese 876
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The following was issued as part of AAVSO Alert Notice 281:

          THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF VARIABLE STAR OBSERVERS
                25 Birch Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
                       INTERNET:  aavso@aavso.org
                Tel. 617-354-0484       Fax 617-354-0665

                AAVSO ALERT NOTICE 281 (May 11, 2001)

POSSIBLE PLANETARY TRANSITS OF 2248-14 IL AQUARII = GLIESE 876

AAVSO member and observer Frederick West, Hanover, PA, gave a presentation
at the 89th Annual Meeting of the AAVSO in October 2000 in which he
suggested that amateur astronomers monitor the variable star IL Aqr =
Gliese 876 in order to observe transits by either or both of its
recently-discovered Jovian planets. [The text of his presentation, with
calculations, will appear in June as a Letter to the Editor in Journal
AAVSO, Vol. 29, No. 2.]

High-precision (CCD or photoelectric photometry) transit observations
could improve our information about the radii, mass, density, and orbital
elements of both Gliese 876 and its planets and about the limb darkening
of the star.  The first window of opportunity to look for these transits
is May 16 - 27, 2001.

Gliese 876 = IL Aqr is a red dwarf star (RA = 22h 53m 20s, Decl. = -14deg
13.2min (2000), M4V, range 10.15-10.19 V, (B-V)=1.58, (R-I)=1.22),
possible periods = 20.2 and 28.7 days).  Geoffrey Marcy, University of
California at Berkeley, and his colleagues (Marcy et al. 1998; Cowen 2001)
found two giant planets orbiting Gliese 876:  Gliese 876b and Gliese 876c.
Using the information in these references and in Delfosse et al. (1998),
MacRobert (2001), Burrows et al. (1997), Sterne (1960), and West (1996),
West calculated approximate dates and times of predicted transits of
Gliese 876 by its planets; they are given in the table below.

Uncertainties in the orbital elements make the times uncertain by several
days, so Gliese 876 should be monitored for transits during "opportunity
windows" lasting ten days or longer.  These windows will occur on the same
days of the calendar year for many years.  Gliese 876 rises at sidereal
time 17:42 and sets at 4:04 for an observer at 40 N latitude. Thus,
morning observations are feasible from late May to September and evening
observations September to late January.  For Gliese 876b a transit may
last as long as 3.53 hours and have an amplitude as much as 0.20
magnitude. For Gliese 876c a transit could last as long as 2.2 hours.  If
the planets simultaneously transit, Gliese 876 could be dimmed by as much
as 0.45 magnitude.

 Transit Number    ----Predicted Time of Transit----     Opportunity Window
  876b    876c        JD            Date and UT
           58      2452050.8     2001 May  21  07:12       2001 May  16-27
   29              2452079.97    2001 Jun. 19  11:17       2001 Jun. 14-26
           59      2452080.9     2001 Jun. 20  09:36       2001 Jun. 14-26
           60      2452111.0     2001 Jul. 20  12:00       2001 Jul. 15-26
   30              2452140.97    2001 Aug. 19  11:17       2001 Aug. 14-25
           61      2452141.1     2001 Aug. 19  14:24       2001 Aug. 14-25
           62      2452171.2     2001 Sep. 18  16:48       2001 Sep. 13-24
           63      2452201.3     2001 Oct. 18  19:12       2001 Oct. 13-25
   31              2452201.97    2001 Oct. 19  11:17       2001 Oct. 13-25
           64      2452231.4     2001 Nov. 17  21:36       2001 Nov. 12-23
           65      2452261.5     2001 Dec. 18  00:00       2001 Dec. 12-24
   32              2452262.97    2001 Dec. 19  11:17       2001 Dec. 12-24
           66      2452291.6     2002 Jan. 17  02:24       2002 Jan. 11-23

Observations should be made every 5 minutes.  Observers should have access
to an accurate time source and record the time of their observations to
the nearest second, if possible.  Accompanying is an AAVSO Preliminary 'd'
scale chart of Gliese 876 with comparison stars suitable for CCD or
photoelectric observing.  Please use this chart to make your observations
and REPORT ALL OBSERVATIONS DIRECTLY TO Dr. Frederick West, 520 Diller
Road, Hanover, PA 17331-4805, USA. (Do not report observations to the
AAVSO.)

References
Burrows, A., et al. 1997, in: Planets Beyond the Solar System and The Next
  Generation of Space Missions (D.R. Soderblom,ed.), Ast. Soc. Pacific Conf.
  Series, Vol. 119, pp. 9-17.
Cowen, R. 2001, Science News, 159, No. 2, 22.
Delfosse, X., et al. 1998. Astron. and Astrophys. Lett., 338, L67.
Marcy, G.W., et al. 1998, Astrophys. J. Lett., 505, L147.
MacRobert, A. 2001, Sky & Telescope, 101, No. 4, 20.
Sterne, T.E. 1960, An Introduction to Celestial Mechanics, Interscience,
   New York, pp. 8-14.
Weis, E.W. 1994, Astron. J., 107, 1135.
West, F.R. 1996, J. Amer. Assoc. Var. Star Obs., 24, 19.
West, F.R. 1999, J. Amer. Assoc. Var. Star Obs., 27, 77.

CHARTS AVAILABLE ON AAVSO WEB AND FTP SITES

Electronic copies of the charts for Gliese 876 mentioned in this Alert
Notice are available through our web site at the following address:

                         http://www.aavso.org

They may also be obtained directly from our FTP site:

             ftp.aavso.org (198.116.78.2), in /alerts/alert281

The answering machine at AAVSO Headquarters is on nights and weekends for
your convenience. Please call our charge-free number (888-802-STAR =
888-802-7827) to report your observations. We also encourage observers to
send observations by fax to 617-354-0665 or by e-mail through the Internet
to observations@aavso.org.

If you need to change the email address this Alert Notice is sent to, or
if you would like to start or stop receiving the Alert Notice by email,
please visit the following URL:

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Many thanks for your valuable astronomical contributions and your efforts.

Good observing!

Janet A. Mattei
Director

Elizabeth O. Waagen
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Amateur Astronomers Could Spot Extrasolar Planet



Hello Gang,
       Over the next few months amateur astronomers will have an
opportunity over the next few  to observe a planet orbiting the star
Gliese 876.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/amateur_extrasolar_010516.html



Alex Michael Bonnici
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Subject: SETI public: Moon Helps Hunt for Mystery Particles
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Science Tuesday: Moon Helps Hunt for Mystery Particles

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/lunar_neutrinos_010508-1.htm
l?Enews=y

A ubiquitous river of invisible particles, zooming mostly undetected through
the black void of space at nearly the speed of light, may hold vital clues
to everything from black holes to missing matter to the origin of the
universe. These particles are nearly massless, carry no electric charge and
are thus loath to interact with matter, making them frustratingly difficult
to detect.


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Bernd Ziegler of Germany is the lucky 3 millionth user of SETI@home, a
search for extraterrestrial intelligence that marks its second anniversary
on May 17, 2001. The largest distributed computing experiment ever
undertaken, this University of California, Berkeley project uses a computer
program that analyzes scientific data while acting as a screen-saver on
personal computers.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=4866





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In Search of the Milky Way's Habitable Zone

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/life-01o.html

Moffett Field - May 24, 2001 - Our Milky Way Galaxy is unusual in that it
is one of the most massive galaxies in the nearby universe. Our Solar System
also seems to have qualities that make it rather unique. According to
Guillermo Gonzalez, Assistant Professor of Astronomy at the University of
Washington, these qualities make the Sun one of the few stars in the Galaxy
capable of supporting complex life.




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At 01:32 PM 5/31/01 -0400, Larry Klaes wrote:

>According to
>Guillermo Gonzalez, Assistant Professor of Astronomy at the University of
>Washington, these qualities make the Sun one of the few stars in the Galaxy
>capable of supporting complex life.

	What?  Is Gonzales STILL only an Assistant Professor, four years after he
first proposed this theory?  One wonders if perhaps his research is
stifling, rather than enhancing, his academic career.
	If Guiellrmo is correct (and I'm not sure he is; see my editorial response
to him at <http://www.setileague.org/editor/nobody.htm>), then our star is
among the one in a million capable of supporting complex life.  Which
means, given the 400 thousand million stars in our Galaxy, we may have ONLY
400 thousand neighboring civilizations!
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I'm sure that Dr. Gonzalez has done an exhaustive survey of all of the
stars in the Milky Way upon which he's making his very bold
assertions... which is a clever trick considering we can't even SEE
most of our own galaxy from our vantage point...

I especially like the line:

  "I believe both simple life and complex life are very rare, but
  complex life, like us, is probably unique in the observable
  Universe."

Yow! In the whole "OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE??" Even way out there in the Great Wall 
of Galaxies?  I guess the property value of my house just shot waaaaaay up!

Isn't sound byte journalism fun..?   :-)  :-)  :-)

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Subject: SETI public: Are 75% of all Earth-type worlds 0.9 to 2.7 billion years older than our planet?
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From: owner-europa@klx.com [mailto:owner-europa@klx.com]On Behalf Of
Bruce Moomaw
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 3:38 AM
To: ISSDG
Cc: Jupiter List; Icepick Europa Mailing List
Subject: May and June "Icarus" abstracts are in


It never rains but it pours; no sooner did the abstracts from the April
"Icarus" turn up belatedly on the Web than those for the May and June issues
turned up too (all of them apparently delayed by the journal's slow
reorganization of its own website):

www.idealibrary.com/links/toc/icar

Particularly interesting from May and June:

(1)  A set of four May abstracts by Erich Karkoschka on the results of
Hubble's latest observations of Uranus, its rings and moons;

(2)  A June piece proposing that the puzzling "Late Heavy Bombardment" --
the sudden storm of big impactors that seems to have rained down on the
inner planets after the initial bombardment had slackened off -- may have
been due to the late formation of Uranus and Neptune, which then diverted a
new wave of planetesimals from the outer Solar System into the inner one;

(3)  A June near-IR compositional survey of near-Earth asteroids, which turn
out to be convincing sources for the ordinary-chondrite meteorites, but also
more varied than the larger Main Belt asteroids.  (1989 ML -- the target for
Japan's MUSES-C sample return mission -- seems to have "a neutral spectrum
that may be interpreted as a shock-darkened ordinary chondrite.")

(4)  A June piece by Charles Lineweaver, in which he sets forth an ingenious
(and, to me, rather convincing-sounding) argument that "3/4 of the
Earth-like planets in the Universe are older than the Earth, and that their
average age is 0.9 to 2.7 billion years older than the Earth."


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