From: LARRY KLAES (ljk4_at_msn.com)
Date: Tue Jul 12 2005 - 19:53:36 UTC
This thread may find this book of use:
Beyond Contact: A Guide to SETI and Communicating
A Guide to SETI and Communicating with Alien Civilizations
By Brian McConnell
First Edition March 2001
ISBN: 0-596-00037-5
432 pages
In Beyond Contact: A Guide to SETI and Communicating with Alien
Civilizations, author Brian McConnell examines the science and technology
behind the search for intelligent life in space, from the physics of
inter-stellar laser and radio communication to information theory and
linguistics. If you've ever wondered whether it really would be possible to
communicate with other civilizations, you'll want to read this book.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/alien/index.html
Larry
>From: Doug Vakoch <vakoch_at_seti.org>
>To: bill.st.arnaud_at_canarie.ca
>CC: 'LARRY KLAES' <ljk4_at_msn.com>,'setipublic'
><public_at_setileague.org>,'BioAstro' <bioastro_at_setileague.org>
>Subject: Re: SETI public: Transmission: The Other Side of SETI
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:50:37 -0700
>
>Bill,
>
>I think your argument for an "archaeological transmission" for the benefit
>of others makes sense. For somewhat similar thoughts, see
>
>http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_vakoch_future_030410.html
>
>Doug
>
>Bill St.Arnaud wrote:
>
>>David:
>>
>>I enjoyed your paper.
>>
>>However I think there is one other category of ET transmission that is not
>>described in your paper: archeological transmission for the benefit of
>>future generations of the transmitter's society i.e. electronic time
>>capsule
>>
>>The purpose of these transmissions is not to contact intelligent
>>civilizations on other planets but to leave an electronic time capsule for
>>future generations of the transmitter's society on their own planet.
>>
>>Reflected radar beams off distant exo-planets, gravitational lensing,
>>inter-stellar refraction and other techniques could be used so that a
>>signal
>>sent from earth would some day return back to earth and be detected by
>>future generations.
>>
>>The signal would be extremely weak - but knowing its characteristics
>>should
>>make it easier detect for future technologically advanced societies.
>>
>>If other ET civilizations have the same anthromorphic desire "to leave
>>their
>>mark" then their would be a rationale for these societies to go to the
>>expense to carry out inter-stellar transmissions for many generations. It
>>is the same desire that we have had over many millennia to build pyramids,
>>castles and tombstones
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-public_at_setileague.org [mailto:owner-public_at_setileague.org] On
>>>Behalf Of LARRY KLAES
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:57 AM
>>>To: setipublic
>>>Cc: BioAstro
>>>Subject: SETI public: Transmission: The Other Side of SETI
>>>
>>>Transmission: The Other Side of SETI
>>>
>>>David F. Mayer, Advanced Computer Consultants, Columbus, OH
>>>
>>>Abstract: The thesis of this paper is that the best way to answer the
>>>question of how to search for extraterrestrial intelligence is to look at
>>>SETI from the perspective of the civilization which is attempting to
>>>TRANSMIT to another. It is concluded that the visible band presents the
>>>most
>>>viable medium of contact, since it offers both the greatest bandwidth and
>>>the most narrow focusing, permitting the most information to be
>>>transmitted
>>>to potential targets at the lowest cost. The essential problem of
>>>defining
>>>the meaning of a message to an unknown civilization is solved by the
>>>concept
>>>of the SELF-DECODING MESSAGE. The problem of the selection of potential
>>>targets is discussed and criteria for optimal choice are given. Finally,
>>>the
>>>essential question of the PRUDENCE of such a transmission program is
>>>presented and discussed.
>>>
>>>My central point is not bandwidth but easy acquisition and decoding by a
>>>naive receiver.
>>>
>>>http://home.earthlink.net/~motustuff/Seti_Transmission/TRANSMIT0.htm
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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