Re: SETI public: Pattern Recognition.....

From: Larry Kayser (kayser_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri Jul 11 2003 - 00:24:06 PDT

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    David:

    Do you really want to continue this discussion over the public@setileague.org?
    It is of course up to you but I do not see the point of it.........

    OK, I have put in some hours of study.

    1. I want to learn more about the "Baseline Smoothing" this sounds like a
    gain equalization process but as I read the files available to me it seems
    to do more than simply gain equalization.

    2.
    >Narrow band birdies are eliminated by cataloguing them. More difficult,
    >for an amateur, is cataloguing non-local sources, but professionals
    >do exactly that.

    OK, this presumes that the birdies are constants in frequency, neat idea,
    and very valuable for tones found inside the spectra on all or many or most
    observations / data files.

    My need is different, I need to look at a signal (tone) and remove it from
    consideration because it does NOT meet a defined set of conditions,
    frequency, duration of signal, chirp rate (using the .sah model for chirp
    rate) etc.

    3.
    >In terms of recognizing patterns in individual FFTs, amateurs generally
    >integrate across the whole beamwidth. I think the most common technique
    >is to do that visually, by looking for steaks in a waterfall display.
    >Chirp is visible at this level.

    The operative word here is "beamwidth" a process of meaning within
    SETI. Regretfully it has no value for my work. The reference to a visual
    process is that I have no way to look at visual data on a 24x7 basis, it
    just can not physically be done.

    4.
    > > I have since your first email put some hours into SETI@Home looking for
    > > information on the fast folding algorithm. I have not found anything, so
    > > your help could be very valuable in finding out what has already gone one.
    >
    ><http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39944AB0.7F6C0E0A%40setiathome.berkeley.edu>

    well this source does not really dig into a fast folding algorithm. They
    use the words but there is no reference to what it means. A Google shows
    me enough information and sources eventually I will find a description that
    can be implemented or evaluated or what ever hi.

    5.
    >I haven't got round to reading the source code yet.

    what is the source of the source code please.....?

    Larry
    VA3LK


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