From: Yvan Dutil (yvan.dutil_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 17:32:51 PDT
into_the_light_at_earthlink.net a écrit :
> So tell me Larry K & Larry Klaes.
> (aka SETI League IFO)
>
> I reasoned that so-called "pattern-recognition" may be
> a usefull tool to help discriminate between noise and
> objects not normally found within the Human
> environment.
>
> The problem with so-called pattern-recognition is that
> of 'familiarity'. Eric Davis, past physicist for NIDS,
> told me, "an incommensurability exists between Human
> and suspected ET" behavior.
>
> Statement is ----> brilliant <----
This statement generaly apply to problem associated with communication
issue. But, it apply much less to a detection problem.
> If you don't know what this means, shut the fuck up,
> and stay out of the conversation.
>
> (includes scot s.)
>
> Ok, so what what do we do as curious people?
>
> Allen Tough has an interesting solution.
>
> Bruce Cornet also has an interesting idea.
>
> Who else?
>
> Interested parties are invited to respond.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> eye of horus
>
You proposal is not that fringe as you might expect.
There is a lot a problem similar to your proposition going
on. The Hessdalen project (http://www.hessdalen.org/)
or the recent search for artificial structure on the Moon
by Alexey V. Arkhipov, who is a SETI league coordonator
for Ukraine by the way,
(http://www.astronet.ru:8101/db/msg/1177539/e-index.html).
A general proposal for Claudio Macone at the IAA SETI meeting
in Toulouse in 2001. Generalised pattern reconition is only a
bayesian filter (similiar to those used to detect anomalous chemical
in teledection application), and a beyesian filter is only a mathematical
definition of the Occam's razor.
So why we do SETI in radio and visible light? Because, the background
is best define so we can handle the false alarm rate to a managable level.
Standard military software design to detect artificial stuff have been used
on Mars, only to discover when higher resolution were available that there
was only rocks there. But, with enough observations things become possibles.
IMHO the Hessdalen project and the effort of Arkhipov are the best we can
do in this direction for sometime.
Yvan Dutil
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