Date: Sat Jul 05 2003 - 19:38:02 PDT
So tell me Larry K & Larry Klaes.
(aka SETI League IFO)
Why do you insist on looking for signs of ET WAY OUT
Is it because SETI is safe?
SETI was a cool concept, for the 1960s but as a
modern search model is antique at best. To be
fair collectivey SETI proponents blazed a trail that
few could. SETI SCIENTISTS paid heavy price to be
able to converse SETI in scientific domains. There
are many dumb phuckers out there in the guise of
scientists. We are all indebted to these selfless
people who in science name-sake expended themselves
selflessly. SETV on the other hand, regardless, is
current, wrt modern tools, modern ideas and proven
field practice. Myself being (merely, as compared to
real SETI scientist) an instrumentation engineer, and
having co-owned [3 people] a scientific military
research company, Crux Computer Corp..made millions,
(listed in Forbes). I theorized that it is likely
possible to detect ET objects using modern tools.
Myself having observed in daylight in 1965 an object
at close range (~12 meters). I suspect that I know
that ET objects are visiting Earth. There's more to
the story, but, hopefully without sounding too
commercial, you will have to wait until my book,
"Instrumentation Strategies for the Detection of
Exterrestrial Objects" will be published later this
year. Prior to inventing SIS and later SETV, I
expended 12 years studying instrumentation methods
that I reasoned may be useful in the detection and
analysis of ET objects. One of these being meteor
objects, as meteors are very similar in behavior to
suspected ET objects. I further reasoned having
studied suspected proximal ET object observation
reports by many THOUSANDS of people who have observed
ET objects in close proximity that ET objects are
operating essentially clandestinely.
I reasoned that so-called "pattern-recognition" may be
a usefull tool to help discriminate between noise and
objects not normally found within the Human
The problem with so-called pattern-recognition is that
of 'familiarity'. Eric Davis, past physicist for NIDS,
told me, "an incommensurability exists between Human
and suspected ET" behavior.
Statement is ----> brilliant <----
If you don't know what this means, shut the fuck up,
and stay out of the conversation.
(includes scot s.)
Ok, so what what do we do as curious people?
Allen Tough has an interesting solution.
Bruce Cornet also has an interesting idea.
Interested parties are invited to respond.
eye of horus
Founder SETV Search Model
or another good site:
It seems that cameras were the
'personal-instrument' of choice in the public domain
of the 1950's to 1980s. The personal instrument of
choice today is the so-called personal-computer
Safe-SETI, one way to look...SETI Search Model is
Ask yourself this question:
Would a successfull engineering ET civilization use a
planetary communication medium for interGALACTIC
Ask David Wooley, he never bullshits anybody.
Regarding pattern recognition, if ET are visiting, it
is likely, (as derived from reviewing 15k
presorted-sighting reports and presuming that few of
those 15,000 people were crazy or delusional in their
objects PERCEIVED as not being-from-around-here)
and that ET objects may either be very efficient
and/or very stealthy. It seems possible that post data
analysis of large-array sensor 'farm' data may reveal
the presence of apparently clandestine ET objects. The
places I look are in the riometer arrays at nome and
another is in the lanal geosensor arrays, Earth I
find is rather plastic. Microbarograph arrays also
reveal interesting post acquisitition data. Another
fascinating data source (if the fuckers share)
is the GCP array, maintained by R. Nelson, et al. at:
, of which my friend
Erling is a member, also presents curious data.
SETV model gets data, use it.
eye of horus
SETV Search Model Founder
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:38:10 -0400
To: David Woolley <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org
At 02:50 2003-07-01, David Woolley wrote:
> > But even in this, there needs to be some controls, such as ignition noise
> > is of no interest to me as are wide band power supply birdies etc.
>If you expect an answer, please repost on list.
Done, see above.
> > > I presume both can be attacked with the fast folding algorithm
> > >that SETI@Home now uses (they've translated the original, freely
> > >source into C, from Fortran, and optimised it for the cache memory on
> > >PCs,
> > Please tell me more David! I am really into "freely available" things I
> > can study and test here. If you can point me in the right direction and I
> > will go digging.
I have since your first email put some hours into
SETI@Home looking for information on the fast folding
algorithm. I have not found anything, so your help
could be very valuable in finding out what has already
If you know of any general texts on this subject, that
are detailed enough that one can implement them with
out Post Graduate math skills I would appreciate that
> > Larry
> > VA3LK
> > PS in the past when I could not find help I have wandered off for a few
> > years and found out what I did not know however I am getting older and any
> > help that keeps me out of some rat holes will be greatly appreciated.
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