archive: Re: SETI-L: Extracom Project & Earth --The Planet of Fools

Re: SETI-L: Extracom Project & Earth --The Planet of Fools

Daniel Boyd Fox ( foxd@indiana.edu )
Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:29:43 -0500 (EST)

Walt,

True, I have been to those type parties, I've also been to parties where
someone makes an absolute fool of themselves and everybody else shuts up.

If this is not an april fool's joke, then I would expect the antenna would
be visible in satellite photos. It did say Brazil in the announcement and a
parabolic dish pointed straight up and being able to point near the
galactic core would limit the placement of the antenna to within a few
degrees of 28 degrees south latitude. Anybody want to check it out?

73,
Daniel Fox
KF9ET

On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Walt Williams
wrote:

> Ever attend a party where everybody is afraid to get up and
> dance? Everybody is sitting, no talking, no CONTACT.
>
> We need to transmit to stir the pot, when we do...things will
> (probably) start happening, its an ancient behavioral rule.
>
> Let's say hi to them, let them know we are in the game.
>
> Walt Williams, 99.04.02
> =======================================================
>
>
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> Reply-to: <awk-h@dolwar.demon.co.uk>
> From: "Adrian W Kingsley-Hughes" <awk-h@dolwar.demon.co.uk>
> To: "'Richard Burke-Ward'" <richard@burke-ward.demon.co.uk>,
> "'SETI League'" <seti@sni.net>
> Subject: RE: SETI The Extracom Project
> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:54:42 +0100
>
> It's the quality of the message, or rather, the potential lack of
> it, that bothers me.
>
> I think that as we now move into an era of listening, we need to
> think about transmitting - seems rather selfish just to listen -
> but what we send needs to be quality.
>
> Humans are quite good at making fools of themselves (UFO cults,
> extremist religions, millennium fever, etc, etc, ad nausium) - we
> don't want to make galactic fools of ourselves!
>
> Adrian
>
> Adrian W Kingsley-Hughes
> Argus Station (currently under construction) IO73vf95
> VOLCOR:Cymru/Wales
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-seti@lists.sni.net [mailto:owner-seti@lists.sni.net]On
> > Behalf Of Richard Burke-Ward
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:56 AM
> > To: SETI League
> > Subject: Re: SETI The Extracom Project
> >
> >
> > Dear Paul -
> >
> > > Here is yet another organization "launching the first private
> > >extraterrestrial communication initiative." Note that they plan to
> > >*transmit* on 1420 MHz! Tip of the iceberg, I'm afraid.
> >
> > I am sure I'm being ridiculously naive, but I am not very
> > clear on what
> > there is to object to here - aside from the obvious, which is
> > producing
> > noise on a band we are all listening to. Are you objecting purely to
> > that - in which case, I see the point - or to the fact that
> > they propose
> > to broadcast at all?
> >
> > And if it's the former, isn't this a potentially lethal argument to
> > microwave SETI? You can't look and broadcast simultaneously
> > - it's more
> > efficient to listen than to broadcast - so who's going to
> > broadcast? And
> > if no one's going to broadcast, why listen? ET would have the same
> > interference problem that we do. How would they decide which way to
> > jump? My bet is that they would ultimately fall back on the
> > listening
> > strategy.
> >
> > What a depressing image - thousands of lonely civilisations, all
> > desperate to hear something, none of them daring to transmit
> > for fear of
> > interfering with their ability to listen. Everyone hiding,
> > no seeker -
> > and by accident at that.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>