archive: Re: FW: SETI Fwd: Scientist: Reason for Optimism in ET Search

Re: FW: SETI Fwd: Scientist: Reason for Optimism in ET Search
Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:24:53 -0600 (MDT)

Hi Chip, hi list,

Sorry for my silence, I just got over my first summer cold.

Chip, please don't take this badly but I think you're missing the point.
Given current technology the possiblity of an Argus station picking up a
carrier from a nearby source is admittedly small. But, every day it gets
better. So far (less than a year) the gain of my station (not including the
dish and the feed) has increased by 24dB. Receivers haven't gotten much
better (we're working on it) but the FFT software and computers certainly have.

I didn't expect instant gratification from building an Argus station. I
expect to learn what I need to learn and to constantly upgrade and improve
the station for many years to come. And, while doing so watch the number of
stations increase.

I guess I disagree with the statement "It has no hope of succeeeding." It
has every hope of succeeding.


At 11:48 AM 8/24/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/24/98 8:15:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> writes:
><< He told
> me that maybe the Project Argus was a 'decent' search strategie after

> all, and that it might be a fun backyard project for the summer. I
> wonder if he ever did set up an Argus station:)? >>
>I said no such thing Dave. What I said was that considering under what
>conditions a small-dish survey had an acceptable figure of merit was a fun
>Summer project. I have indeed completed this BOTEC task and found it
>fascinating to see how limiting the approach is. It has no hope of
>succeeeding. I am sorry that is not to the liking of many here, but that is
>the reality.
>Chip Cohen
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