archive: Re: SETI Music to ETIs? & Near Earth Contact

Re: SETI Music to ETIs? & Near Earth Contact

Larry Klaes ( )
Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:14:23 -0500

Check out HAL's Legacy: 2001's Computer as Dream and Reality, edited
by David G. Stork (1997, MIT Press). The entire book is online and discusses
many aspects of the future of making a computer more "human":


At 02:25 AM 12/21/1998 -0800, Walt Williams wrote:
>Ron, and All,
>Should computers ever become sentient, as surely Earth's machines will
>at some time in the future, perhaps they may develop algorhythms of
>pleasure, but could humans ever understand the meaning?
>Since computers and their future kin, will probably(?) be some
>hybrid of synchronous/asynchronous parallel architecture, there will
>likely be rhythm beating within their tin-can nano-technology
>'hearts'. Music is in part rhythm, but could one perceive a sentient
>machine's rhythmic pleasure algorhythms as music if that were what it
>It is possible to exceed the null of cancellation or equality
>and this has been replicated in the lab. This is the
>operational definition of pain or discorrelation in an artificial
>intelligence machine. Confirming human models of this definition of
>pain has been reported by Ronald and Wanda Blue in their paper on
>Correlational Opponent Processing (C) 1996.
>Perhaps people such as Carver Meade (CalTech) and yourself as well
>could model "pleasure sequences" in sentient machines, and thereby
>understand them?
>Lately, I hear people, say why we can't anticipate intelligent
>response in possible contact. It would be good to know strategies to
>anticipate intelligent response in possible contact. I hear many
>suggestions regarding the use of simple mathematical sequences to
>establish the cognition of intelligence. But doesn't that require an
>understanding the transport medium? Let us fabricate a hypothetical
>situation. Rather than assume that ET is far-away, let us say an ET
>probe, machine intelligence, is close by, <550 AU. Now we present
>contact, what changes? How does one participate in interaction?
>(No safe SETI here). Do we need establish methods of interaction
>protocol and then send test sequences hoping that ET probe will copy,
>i.e., teach our method, or do we simply 'ping it' and listen for
>response --hoping we can respond in kind? Will this demonstrate
>intelligent response on our part? How would one establish a
>communications link with an ET machine intelligence (presuming
>microwave or optical common denominator)? Some simple handshake need
>be established, but what?
>Walt Williams, 98.12.20