archive: Re: SETI Music to ETIs?

Re: SETI Music to ETIs?

Larry Klaes ( lklaes@bbn.com )
Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:54:13 -0500

Remember the probe Nomad from the Star Trek episode "The Changeling",
when it asked Uhura what she was doing (singing)? "What is music?"
"Think about music." With scary results.

I know, it's just science fiction - but ya never know....

Larry

At 03:31 PM 12/20/1998 -0800, Brian Wong wrote:
>----Original Message-----
>From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
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>>Human music is not noise like. It is composed of rythmic units and
>[snip...]
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>Agreed, music is not noise and it would likely not be mistaken for noise due
>to its repetitive structure and ratios. So it would not be confused with
>random noise. I used (or misused) the term noise to mean non-meaningful
>information or information that cannot be clearly interpreted and
>identified.
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>[snip...]
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>>makes the result key independent, and would show up as clearly of
>>intelligent origin.
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>Very interesting. This is a field of study in itself. I have much to
>learn. I agree again, there would be no mistake that music was from an
>intelligent origin.
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>But how do you convey the purpose of music??? Suppose ETI have no analog to
>music, then what is music? What is the purpose of music? Furthermore, how
>can the purpose of music be conveyed via a binary bit stream to an
>intelligence that has no analog? Because we "enjoy" it? How do we convey
>the feeling "enjoy" or feelings at all for that matter? I think that the
>majority of information conveyed between humans are descriptions of feelings
>that will likely not translate at all in non-terrestrial contexts.
>
>So if the vibrations of Mozart or Handel should land on the external sensors
>of ETI what would it mean to them? What is the underlying purpose and
>intent?
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