archiv~1: Re: SETI More about the HOAX

Re: SETI More about the HOAX

Daniel Boyd Fox ( )
Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:26:23 -0500 (EST)

Yes, when I wrote 'UFO fringe' I meant the fringe groups. I was not
attacking everybody who researches UFOs. I suppose I should have
capitalized fringe. We seem to both be dealing with the same fringe.

The reason I posted what I did is that this group has been swamped by many
of the same fringe these past few weeks. It might help some of these
fringe if they read some of the archive and understood why people are
saying the E Q Pegasi signal is a hoax instead of building up complicated
conspiracies and rationalizations about it.

This group mainly focuses on the radio search for ET with some discussion
of other types of searches. The last thing we would want to do is to
coverup a detection. At the same time we don't want to cry wolf.

Daniel Fox

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Dave Pigott wrote:

> I don't know if this mail will make it to the SETI list, because I am not a
> member, although I am tempted to join since SETI is one of my interests,
> but I wanted to jump in and explain a couple of things:
> First of all, let me introduce myself (I'm a man of wealth and means...doo,
> doo, doo ;-)
> I am a moderator (the only one that isn't Perry, at the moment) on Perry's
> UASR list. When we first started the list, we did so because we were tired
> of the lunatic fringe of UFOLOGY and wanted to set up a list where serious
> discussion could take place on all aspects of UFOs, Aliens and even plain
> old Space science and technology. We have something that I believe to be
> unusual in such a list in that one of the moderators (i.e. me) is actually
> a UFO sceptic. We did this so that we would always have a balance. I get
> occasionaly flamed by the odd fringe member when I suggest alternative
> explanations, or ask for evidence other than hearsay, but that's part of my
> brief; my belief; my credo, thus I get enormous pleasure out of being a
> part of UASR. Debate is intelligent, for the most part, and we have some
> well informed, well educated people, who debate well and rationally.
> What Perry is so upset about, I believe, is that he (and all of UASR by
> inference) is being branded part of the lunatic fringe of Ufology, and that
> is a disingenuous statement, let me tell you. Perry is rational and demands
> the burden of proof. As he says, we always apply Occam's Razor to any
> information: Not always a popular approach with some on the fringe, but
> absolutely essential if one is to investigate sensibly.
> Anyway, I thought I'd just add my 2 penneth worth to the debate, and now
> I'll let you all get back to more weighty matters. :-)
> Dave Pigott,
> Moderator, UASR
> (Physicist by training, not by profession :-)