archive: SETI RE: [ASTRO] BIG bang question

SETI RE: [ASTRO] BIG bang question

Larry Klaes ( lklaes@zoomtel.com )
Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:53:11 -0400

Refering to CVA's comment on "sponging" through space at FTL
speeds, here are some discussions on the famous "warp drive"
paper on the subject by Miguel Alcubierre:

(For some reason, his actual paper is missing from its Web site:
http://www.astro.cf.ac.uk/groups/relativity/papers/abstracts/miguel94a.html
Even Miquel's Home page links only to this now missing paper:
http://www.astro.cf.ac.uk/pub/Miguel.Alcubierre/)

http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw81.html

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/bluesilv/wd_home.htm

http://maya.usask.ca/~sarty/astronomy.html#warp

http://www.microtronics.com.au/~gwatson/paper-puthoff-space.html

Other relevant links:

http://www.nr.infi.net/~drmatrix/startrip.htm

http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/Other_Groups/PAO/warp.htm

Larry

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From: CVA
Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 8:40 AM
To: Gregory David Stempel; astro@lists.mindspring.com
Subject: Re: [ASTRO] BIG bang question

In response to the following request for information ...(How fast was
inflation? I am reading wildly varying descriptions: almost the speed of
light, trillions of times the speed of light...

So, what's the scoop?) ...from me, ...At 01:07 AM 10/16/98 -0700, Gregory
David Stempel wrote:

>I thought it was impossible to go faster than the speed of light.
>
>Take care
>Gregory david Stempel
>
>

Yes, it is. But inflation, I understand, was a universal expansion of
spacetime and its contents.

Curiously, it is an interesting hypothesis to propose, as some have done,
that we *could* move faster than lightspeed by not moving faster than light
speed. Confusing? Well, this is how it works...

It is not at all technologically possible now, or likely even in the near
future...maybe further. However, by what I refer to as 'sponging' space
ahead and behind you, you could -- again, hypothetically -- move like an
earthworm through space by distorting the space ahead and behind you.
Inside that little space, you would travel, or perhaps, not even have to
move at all. Just sit and munch on chips and beer. That's about the extent
of my understanding of it, but perhaps you get the idea.

This would be a mini-version of the inflation hypothesis. ...as I
understand it. Within the universe, nothing moved faster than light. But
the space -- think of it as clear Jello -- expanded at some bizarre
(compared to what we have familiarity today) rate.

My question remains, however, if any gurus on this hallowed list have
knowledge of a reliable, or generally accepted, 'rate of expansion'.

Claudio

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