archive: Re: SETI Why would anyone look forward to sharing this galaxy?

Re: SETI Why would anyone look forward to sharing this galaxy?

Alfred A. Aburto Jr. ( (no email) )
Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:58:07 -0700

If we feel threatened by an ETI civilization, assuming we ever discover one,
we will, no doubt, react in the standard way (as in numerous movies, like
Independence Day, ..., etc.). Either we'll lose the battle and be subjugated
or wiped out completely, they lose the battle, we both lose, or some kind
of truce is achieved. That is; if we feel threatened!

But suppose we don't feel threatened. Suppose the Arisians land on Earth
or the Vulcans "discover" us and actually help us! Why isn't this just as
likely as your scenario?

Perhaps the Galaxy will be like a big city containing the good, the bad, the
beautiful, and the ugly, ... the whole spectrum! We really will share the
Galaxy, despite wars, racial prejudice, and the whole spectrum of problems
we face even today in our cities, this country, and the world ... these problems
won't go away so long as there is a wide diversity of attitudes, feelings,
opinions,
life styles, races, social strata, ... , on and on , ...

We share the cities, the countries, the world, and we'll share the Galaxy too...

Another case:
Maybe ETI will be so advanced that they don't really care about us at all. It
would be like us trying to communicate with an ant perhaps. Silly and
unthinkable right?

There are many scenarios! Perhaps we should be cautious, but that is all
I'd advise ...

Al Aburto

> jerry and judy wrote:

> >But Jerry, in fact we share this world with billions of other creatures of
> >all types including wolves, lions, tigers, bears and all sorts of creatures.
>
> We don't share!, tigers will be gone soon, then probably the wolves. Bears
> and lions are already pretty much confined to parks and preserves (for
> economic profit in the final analysis). We had better study our behavior
> in this, because this will probably be the reaction of any ET race towards
> us. I assume any intelligence, any one that we will recognize anyway, will
> be as far ahead of us as we are ahead of the social predators (wolves and
> lions etc.).
>
> >I doubt we will ever exterminate the snake or black widow or termite
> >or the flu or ... some creatures we can and have exterminated it is
> >true but not all creatures ...
>
> If you ask the average person "would you exterminate all termites, for
> example, if you only had to press a button?" what do you think the average
> person would say?
>
> Now if they're as far advanced of us as we are the rattlesnakes or sharks,
> then we might be safe - unless we inadvertently expand into their comfy
> 'homes or rec areas', in the analogy. This will probably become as
> unavoidable for us in the future, as it is becoming for rattlesnakes and
> sharks today.
>
> >We share this world with them --- so too we may find ourselves
> >sharing the universe with many other creatures in the Galaxy. There is
> >no need to exterminate them or they us ...
>
> I don't how you can think that. Look at the history of life on earth, look
> at man's short history, there's been an acceleration. We should learn from
> these dynamics and relationships which are repeated throughout the animal
> and plant (and human on human) worlds. There's no doubt about the
> direction of 'progress' on this planet, and are we unique? is the Earth
> that special in this regard?
>
> We should also get it through our heads that we are an 'infant', stumbling
> and powerless race at this point and any venture out of our secluded
> playpen will be fraught with danger, if the range of probabilities are even
> close - a tech/civ every 3000 cubic LYs only gives us a few thousand years
> to mature, that's if we don't make a lot of 'noise' (and the aliens, which
> would already be spanning a few hundred light years, don't explore even
> more efficiently).
>
> Thanks for taking the time, I look forward to any replies, corrections,
> similar or very different opinions,
> Jerry
>
> >Al